The bigger issue is that when the phones cant reach the NTP, they get into some sort of a long loop that needs to be avoided so they boot in a reasonable time.
Thanks again Mike. From: Michael Picher [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 4:15 AM To: Tony Graziano Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [sipx-users] NTP server - or lack of Yes, but he doesn't care... Todd's description of his need was that this is for a stand-alone demo system for phones. He'll just need to make sure that the time is set to later than when the certificate was generated. Mike On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Tony Graziano <[email protected]> wrote: But if the clock is wrong at bootup it will need to be set manually... ============================ Tony Graziano, Manager Telephone: 434.984.8430 Fax: 434.984.8431 Email: [email protected] LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk: Telephone: 434.984.8426 Fax: 434.984.8427 Helpdesk Contract Customers: http://www.myitdepartment.net/gethelp/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Picher <[email protected]> To: Todd Hodgen <[email protected]> Cc: Paul Scheepens <[email protected]>; Tony Graziano <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; sipx-users <[email protected]> Sent: Thu Sep 02 06:59:44 2010 Subject: Re: [sipx-users] NTP server - or lack of # ntpd configuration # ------------------ # # Permit time synchronization with our time source, but do not # permit the source to query or modify the service on this system. restrict default kod nomodify notrap nopeer noquery # # Permit all access over the loopback interface restrict 127.0.0.1 restrict 192.168.0.0 mask 255.255.0.0 nomodify restrict 10.0.0.0 mask 255.0.0.0 nomodify restrict 172.16.0.0 mask 255.240.0.0 nomodify # # Local fudge if network servers are not available server 127.127.1.0 fudge 127.127.1.0 stratum 10 # #ntp reports in syslog that authenticate is invalid keyword #authenticate no # driftfile /var/lib/ntp/drift # Synchronize with selected time servers # server 0.pool.ntp.org iburst # server 1.pool.ntp.org iburst # server 2.pool.ntp.org iburst On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 3:59 AM, Todd Hodgen <[email protected]> wrote: > Actually, I am just wanting the sipXecs server to be the clock source for > the entire network. I thought that the phones would clock off of the > server, and if the server didnt receive its external clock source, it > would just use its own oscillator as the main clock source. > > > > When sipXecs cant reach its external clock sources, it apparently doesnt > pass clock onto the phones. > > > > Maybe Im mistaken and it only passes the clock source onto the phones, > and > nobody can reach the clock source, since there is not going to be a > connection off of this private network. > > > > IT appears I can set the server to be an NTP server, and it looks like the > NTP.conf file is set to have it be an NTP server as the default. To be > honest, I havent dug into the server yet to see why its clock is not > recognized by the phones. I figured someone had already done this, I was > being lazy. > > > > *From:* Paul Scheepens [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Thursday, September 02, 2010 12:28 AM > *To:* Tony Graziano > *Cc:* sipx-users; [email protected]; Todd Hodgen > > *Subject:* Re: [sipx-users] NTP server - or lack of > > > > If I understand the question correctly then Todd needs an NTP source for > SipX. > There must be more systems in the closed network then SipX, if on any of > them you install or activate an NTP server then SipX can point to that. > We have internal NTP servers and I use those for SipX. > > If you need something for Windows look at: > http://www.softpedia.com/dyn-search.php?search_term=ntp+server <http://www.softpedia.com/dyn-search.php?search_term=ntp+server&x=0&y=0> &x=0&y=0 > > If you want the time to be right then you can obtain that by GPS for > example: > http://www.sharewareconnection.com/gps-clock.htm > > Best regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Sincères salutations > > Paul > > > Tony Graziano <[email protected]> wrote > > > > Your system is probably only an ntp client. Pointing back to it if it > > is not listening as a server is why the phones dont sync time. > > > > > http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/rhel-fedora-centos-configure-ntp-client-server/ > > > > I never have this problem, because I always bring a vmware/pfsense > > firewall along with my demo and connect to the customer LAN and get > > ntp from an outside source. pfsense can also be my dhcp server for > > sipx because I can put all the options in. I simply get an Ip address > > from the customer and configure the WAN interface. > > > > Obviously, you can run a pc or laptop on the demo network and run an > > ntp app alongside it. > > > > In all my installs I always have Internet access so I never have an > > issue with getting time. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Todd Hodgen <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I tried adding an NTP server under Network Parameters, that pointed > back to > > > the server - that actually created issues for me. It would seem that > it > > > should be able to run the NTP for the phones off of itself. I'll have > to > > > play with it when I have more time for some controlled testing. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Tony Graziano > > > [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]> > ] > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 12:26 PM > > > To: Todd Hodgen > > > Cc: sipx-users > > > Subject: Re: [sipx-users] NTP server - or lack of > > > > > > why wouldn't you just run ntpd running on the demo sipx system and > > > have the phones point to it? > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Todd Hodgen <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >> Im wanting to run a sipXecs system without internet access, or > > >> access > to > > > an > > >> external NTP server for Demonstration purposes. Does anyone know a > way > > > to > > >> work around the need for an NTP server, and keep the time from > flashing on > > >> end devices. Without an NTP server, the boot process for Polycom > phones > > > is > > >> delayed as they look for NTP source, and when they come up, the clock > > >> flashes on them annoyingly. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> sipx-users mailing list > > >> [email protected] > > >> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ====================== > > > Tony Graziano, Manager > > > Telephone: 434.984.8430 > > > sip: [email protected] > > > Fax: 434.984.8431 > > > > > > Email: [email protected] > > > > > > LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk: > > > Telephone: 434.984.8426 > > > sip: [email protected] > > > Fax: 434.984.8427 > > > > > > Helpdesk Contract Customers: > > > http://www.myitdepartment.net/gethelp/ > > > > > > Why do mathematicians always confuse Halloween and Christmas? > > > Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ====================== > > Tony Graziano, Manager > > Telephone: 434.984.8430 > > sip: [email protected] > > Fax: 434.984.8431 > > > > Email: [email protected] > > > > LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk: > > Telephone: 434.984.8426 > > sip: [email protected] > > Fax: 434.984.8427 > > > > Helpdesk Contract Customers: > > http://www.myitdepartment.net/gethelp/ > > > > Why do mathematicians always confuse Halloween and Christmas? > > Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec. > > _______________________________________________ > > sipx-users mailing list > > [email protected] > > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ > > _______________________________________________ > sipx-users mailing list > [email protected] > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ > -- There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't. 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