You just have to start them once, and then the Acrobits apps will run in
the background. You can enable a function that allows them to receive calls
via the push notifications mechanism, but that requires authenticating
externally. We never did the push notifications piece. Instead we used
their method of never quite putting the phone to 'sleep'. The software kept
the screen off, but the phone was in an active condition (hence the power
drain), and battery usage was still OK.

We also tried the iPod Touch devices, but you have to use a tethered
mic/earpiece if you don't want to use the speakerphone. Bluetooth will NOT
work for the mic, at least not since last summer. We even looked at rooting
the Touch to enable Bluetooth for the mic, but the last time we looked it
was still hardware locked. Perhaps this has changed since last summer.

I will be bringing in one of the Samsung units that Michael described. With
the ability to use it in earpiece/bluetooth/tethered mode, it looks like
the start of a nice smart sip phone.

Philippe

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Andrew Radke <[email protected]>wrote:

>  Thanks Philippe
>
> I'll look in to testing the Acrobits apps. Do they effectively start and
> run in the background automatically or do they need to be run once manually
> to get going?
>
> Has anyone tried using iPod Touchs as a handset for a SIP phone? I think
> they may only have a speaker at the bottom with the microphone and none
> where your ear would be on an iPhone. Otherwise they could be a fantastic
> iOS device for a SIP phone.
>
>
> Andrew Radke
> Yuruga Nursery Pty Ltd
> Clonal Solutions Australia Pty Ltd
> PO Box 220
> Walkamin Qld 4872
> Phone: (07) 4093 3826
> Fax: (07) 4093 3869
> Email: [email protected]
> Web: www.yuruga.com.au
>
> On 18/04/12 9:30 PM, Philippe Laurent wrote:
>
> Curious about the Galaxy Player, can it be used as a handset, or is it
> speakerphone only or bluetooth required?
>
>  Regarding iPhone apps, we tried Acrobits SIP and Acrobits Groundwire (a
> few more biz features such as transferring), both are polished apps and
> worked very well. As Tony pointed out, battery life suffers (figure on less
> than a day's charge), and your quality experience will rely strongly on
> your wifi deployment. The ability to have a device that allows you to work
> with business apps as well as communication (email, voice, txt) is
> priceless, but in the end we did not deploy this type of technology due to
> our high noise environment, large glass in a fairly tough environment, and
> the need to have devices with battery life that could extend beyond two
> shifts (16 hours).
>
>  We chose the KIRK line because of excellent battery life, excellent
> (almost scary) signal penetration in our factory environment, abuse
> survivability, and the ability to send targeted alerts to the phones
> (maintenance alerts, etc) with the 6000 server and 6020 phones, which
> replaced lost functionality that the iOS/Android platform would have
> delivered primarily.
>
>  Your scenario seems to be different, and the iOS/Android choice may be a
> truly tenable solution, given the deployment of a high quality wifi
> environment.
>
>  Philippe
>
>  On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:00 AM, Tony Graziano <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In your case I would test coverage with "any" app, besides counterpath,
>> you can try the free 3cx (Android and iOS) app and others. The biggest
>> thing you will find with wifi -- battery life/talktime (especially when
>> received wifi signals are weak), don't hold up nearly as long as DECT. So
>> your wifi deployment, coverage has a lot to do with battery life and
>> talktime.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Andrew Radke <[email protected]
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>  Hi Tony,
>>>
>>>  We are looking at outdoor coverage but with a lot of trees and
>>> vegetation.
>>>
>>>  Considering your response it shows that things have changed in recent
>>> years too…
>>>
>>>  We do also have large wifi coverage already and are constantly
>>> increasing it. In the past it seemed that wifi was considered universally
>>> terrible. Has that changed?
>>>
>>>  And are there any good smartphone apps? I guess it would be Android
>>> rather than iPhone since it is possible to get reasonable Android handsets
>>> cheaply on prepaid plans and then don't use the cellular side at all. But
>>> for those of us with existing iPhones is there any recommended apps?
>>>
>>>  Regards,
>>>
>>>   Andrew Radke
>>> Yuruga Nursery Pty Ltd
>>> Clonal Solutions Australia Pty Ltd
>>> PO Box 220
>>> Walkamin Qld 4872
>>> Phone: (07) 4093 3826
>>> Fax: (07) 4093 3869
>>> Email: [email protected]
>>> Web: www.yuruga.com.au
>>>
>>>   On 17/04/2012, at 8:04 PM, Tony Graziano wrote:
>>>
>>>    You need to explain what kind of coverage you need and what kind of
>>> wireless infrastructure you have (if any).
>>>
>>> Snom makes a dect phone which also has wireless repeaters and should
>>> work fine. The battery life and talk time is very good and does not
>>> interfere with wifi at all.
>>>
>>> If you have a wifi infrastructure you could opt for an app on a
>>> smartphone.
>>> On Apr 17, 2012 12:56 AM, "Andrew Radke" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>  Just a query to see what the current thoughts are on cordless phones.
>>>>
>>>>  We probably need 2-3 phones fairly soon that can transfer calls. It
>>>> would be nice (but not immediately required) to have the phones capable of
>>>> switching between multiple base stations due to the physical area to be
>>>> covered. Of course this adds a lot to the price so may be judged to be
>>>> uneconomical.
>>>>
>>>>  I know this has been asked before but a lot can change with VoIP
>>>> phones.
>>>>
>>>>   Andrew Radke
>>>> Yuruga Nursery Pty Ltd
>>>> Clonal Solutions Australia Pty Ltd
>>>> PO Box 220
>>>> Walkamin Qld 4872
>>>> Phone: (07) 4093 3826
>>>> Fax: (07) 4093 3869
>>>> Email: [email protected]
>>>> Web: www.yuruga.com.au
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