Well, if cost is no option, and at this point you've blown 2 weeks... bite the bullet and get some Polycom 8440's. Heavy duty and they have the Polycom SIP firmware that is known to work well.
Bria should have a setting for WiFi keepalive. I thought csipsimple also had such a setting... Battery will be your issue with ANY wifi device. This is why SIP DECT phones exist. Mike On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 12:14 AM, Andrew Radke <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi all, > > I've being working with this now for about two weeks with some good and > bad and mixed results. This email will hopefully be a summary of where I > have gotten too and also a request for suggestions and experiences from > others. > > So the short summary would be that they very work well when the Android OS > doesn't put the wireless to sleep. > > The longer version is that the problem is divided into two parts: > maintaining the wireless connection and the SIP soft phone. > > Wireless: > > - The biggest problem I have encountered is keeping the wireless alive > and connected. Android itself constantly wants to shut it down to save > battery and it has to stay on. The Wifi Fixer app ( > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wahtod.wififixer) > possibly helps with this but then I've found that Android itself seems to > have a bugs connecting reliably to WPA enterprise access points. I am in > the process of testing now with a WPA2-Personal setup using multi-SSID > capable WAPs to see if they work better this way. Any suggestions would be > greatly appreciated. > - I've also found it can take a very long time to switch WAPs but I > think that is because our environment is almost too good and you can still > get a very marginal signal from one access point when it should've long ago > switched to a closer one. > > > Softphone apps: > > - Acrobits Groundwire has the most reliable and functional client but > attended transferring is a massive pain. > - Bria has the simplest interface for transferring but has a few > (minor) interface stupidities and some major idiocies. If it looses a > connection to sipX (from the wireless being unavailable temporarily) it > throws up an error and doesn't reregister until you notice and clear it. > Basically this makes it totally unreliable and useless as a softphone. Also > it's setting for keeping the wireless active doesn't seem to do anything. > > > Hardware: > So far we've tested on two units purchased as prepaid phones but without > the SIM card inserted. > > - Samsung Galaxy Y (AU $129) is terrible as a regular phone and worse > as anything else. It probably won't even be usable as a test unit later and > will be thrown in the rubbish. > - LG Optimus Spirit (AU $99 and available at $49.50 for a while) is > very very nice. Speaker phone doesn't work but everything else makes this a > steal. > > > Andrew Radke > Yuruga Nursery Pty Ltd > Clonal Solutions Australia Pty Ltd > PO Box 220 > Walkamin Qld 4872 > Phone: (07) 4093 3826 > Fax: (07) 4093 3869 > Email: [email protected] > Web: www.yuruga.com.au > > On 18/04/2012, at 9:30 PM, Philippe Laurent wrote: > > Curious about the Galaxy Player, can it be used as a handset, or is it > speakerphone only or bluetooth required? > > Regarding iPhone apps, we tried Acrobits SIP and Acrobits Groundwire (a > few more biz features such as transferring), both are polished apps and > worked very well. As Tony pointed out, battery life suffers (figure on less > than a day's charge), and your quality experience will rely strongly on > your wifi deployment. The ability to have a device that allows you to work > with business apps as well as communication (email, voice, txt) is > priceless, but in the end we did not deploy this type of technology due to > our high noise environment, large glass in a fairly tough environment, and > the need to have devices with battery life that could extend beyond two > shifts (16 hours). > > We chose the KIRK line because of excellent battery life, excellent > (almost scary) signal penetration in our factory environment, abuse > survivability, and the ability to send targeted alerts to the phones > (maintenance alerts, etc) with the 6000 server and 6020 phones, which > replaced lost functionality that the iOS/Android platform would have > delivered primarily. > > Your scenario seems to be different, and the iOS/Android choice may be a > truly tenable solution, given the deployment of a high quality wifi > environment. > > Philippe > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:00 AM, Tony Graziano < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> In your case I would test coverage with "any" app, besides counterpath, >> you can try the free 3cx (Android and iOS) app and others. The biggest >> thing you will find with wifi -- battery life/talktime (especially when >> received wifi signals are weak), don't hold up nearly as long as DECT. So >> your wifi deployment, coverage has a lot to do with battery life and >> talktime. >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Andrew Radke <[email protected] >> > wrote: >> >>> Hi Tony, >>> >>> We are looking at outdoor coverage but with a lot of trees and >>> vegetation. >>> >>> Considering your response it shows that things have changed in recent >>> years too… >>> >>> We do also have large wifi coverage already and are constantly >>> increasing it. In the past it seemed that wifi was considered universally >>> terrible. Has that changed? >>> >>> And are there any good smartphone apps? I guess it would be Android >>> rather than iPhone since it is possible to get reasonable Android handsets >>> cheaply on prepaid plans and then don't use the cellular side at all. But >>> for those of us with existing iPhones is there any recommended apps? >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Andrew Radke >>> Yuruga Nursery Pty Ltd >>> Clonal Solutions Australia Pty Ltd >>> PO Box 220 >>> Walkamin Qld 4872 >>> Phone: (07) 4093 3826 >>> Fax: (07) 4093 3869 >>> Email: [email protected] >>> Web: www.yuruga.com.au >>> >>> On 17/04/2012, at 8:04 PM, Tony Graziano wrote: >>> >>> You need to explain what kind of coverage you need and what kind of >>> wireless infrastructure you have (if any). >>> >>> Snom makes a dect phone which also has wireless repeaters and should >>> work fine. The battery life and talk time is very good and does not >>> interfere with wifi at all. >>> >>> If you have a wifi infrastructure you could opt for an app on a >>> smartphone. >>> On Apr 17, 2012 12:56 AM, "Andrew Radke" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> Just a query to see what the current thoughts are on cordless phones. >>>> >>>> We probably need 2-3 phones fairly soon that can transfer calls. It >>>> would be nice (but not immediately required) to have the phones capable of >>>> switching between multiple base stations due to the physical area to be >>>> covered. Of course this adds a lot to the price so may be judged to be >>>> uneconomical. >>>> >>>> I know this has been asked before but a lot can change with VoIP phones. >>>> >>>> Andrew Radke >>>> Yuruga Nursery Pty Ltd >>>> Clonal Solutions Australia Pty Ltd >>>> PO Box 220 >>>> Walkamin Qld 4872 >>>> Phone: (07) 4093 3826 >>>> Fax: (07) 4093 3869 >>>> Email: [email protected] >>>> Web: www.yuruga.com.au >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sipx-users mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >>>> >>> >>> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk: >>> Telephone: 434.984.8426 >>> sip: [email protected].**net<[email protected]> >>> >>> Helpdesk Customers: >>> http://myhelp.myitdepartment.**net<http://myhelp.myitdepartment.net/> >>> Blog: http://blog.myitdepartment.net >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sipx-users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sipx-users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Tony Graziano, Manager >> Telephone: 434.984.8430 >> sip: [email protected] >> Fax: 434.465.6833 >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Linked-In Profile: >> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4 >> Ask about our Internet Fax services! >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk: >> Telephone: 434.984.8426 >> sip: [email protected].**net<[email protected]> >> >> Helpdesk Customers: >> http://myhelp.myitdepartment.**net<http://myhelp.myitdepartment.net/> >> Blog: http://blog.myitdepartment.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sipx-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >> > > _______________________________________________ > sipx-users mailing list > [email protected] > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > sipx-users mailing list > [email protected] > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ > -- Michael Picher, Director of Technical Services eZuce, Inc. 300 Brickstone Square**** Suite 201**** Andover, MA. 01810 O.978-296-1005 X2015 M.207-956-0262 @mpicher <http://twitter.com/mpicher> www.ezuce.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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