After this discussion a few weeks ago, I purchased several Galaxy Player 4 units for testing, each loaded with the CSipSimple software. We've been so pleased with their performance that we've added these to our arsenal, as their noise handling, service time (> 8 hours), and integration with a maintenance web app that I rolled into an Android App shell were excellent. Combine this with an app that jails all but a few apps on the phone, and you have a great kiosk phone that strips music and other 'features' we don't need or want.
CSipSimple has advanced features (the advanced menu has to be activated) that addresses wifi sleep modes and a dozen other items (including mic and audio boost). Philippe On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 5:39 AM, Michael Picher <[email protected]> wrote: > Well, if cost is no option, and at this point you've blown 2 weeks... > bite the bullet and get some Polycom 8440's. Heavy duty and they have the > Polycom SIP firmware that is known to work well. > > Bria should have a setting for WiFi keepalive. I thought csipsimple also > had such a setting... > > Battery will be your issue with ANY wifi device. This is why SIP DECT > phones exist. > > Mike > > > On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 12:14 AM, Andrew Radke > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I've being working with this now for about two weeks with some good and >> bad and mixed results. This email will hopefully be a summary of where I >> have gotten too and also a request for suggestions and experiences from >> others. >> >> So the short summary would be that they very work well when the Android >> OS doesn't put the wireless to sleep. >> >> The longer version is that the problem is divided into two parts: >> maintaining the wireless connection and the SIP soft phone. >> >> Wireless: >> >> - The biggest problem I have encountered is keeping the wireless >> alive and connected. Android itself constantly wants to shut it down to >> save battery and it has to stay on. The Wifi Fixer app ( >> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wahtod.wififixer) >> possibly helps with this but then I've found that Android itself seems to >> have a bugs connecting reliably to WPA enterprise access points. I am in >> the process of testing now with a WPA2-Personal setup using multi-SSID >> capable WAPs to see if they work better this way. Any suggestions would be >> greatly appreciated. >> - I've also found it can take a very long time to switch WAPs but I >> think that is because our environment is almost too good and you can still >> get a very marginal signal from one access point when it should've long >> ago >> switched to a closer one. >> >> >> Softphone apps: >> >> - Acrobits Groundwire has the most reliable and functional client but >> attended transferring is a massive pain. >> - Bria has the simplest interface for transferring but has a few >> (minor) interface stupidities and some major idiocies. If it looses a >> connection to sipX (from the wireless being unavailable temporarily) it >> throws up an error and doesn't reregister until you notice and clear it. >> Basically this makes it totally unreliable and useless as a softphone. >> Also >> it's setting for keeping the wireless active doesn't seem to do anything. >> >> >> Hardware: >> So far we've tested on two units purchased as prepaid phones but without >> the SIM card inserted. >> >> - Samsung Galaxy Y (AU $129) is terrible as a regular phone and worse >> as anything else. It probably won't even be usable as a test unit later >> and >> will be thrown in the rubbish. >> - LG Optimus Spirit (AU $99 and available at $49.50 for a while) is >> very very nice. Speaker phone doesn't work but everything else makes this >> a >> steal. >> >> >> Andrew Radke >> Yuruga Nursery Pty Ltd >> Clonal Solutions Australia Pty Ltd >> PO Box 220 >> Walkamin Qld 4872 >> Phone: (07) 4093 3826 >> Fax: (07) 4093 3869 >> Email: [email protected] >> Web: www.yuruga.com.au >> >> On 18/04/2012, at 9:30 PM, Philippe Laurent wrote: >> >> Curious about the Galaxy Player, can it be used as a handset, or is it >> speakerphone only or bluetooth required? >> >> Regarding iPhone apps, we tried Acrobits SIP and Acrobits Groundwire (a >> few more biz features such as transferring), both are polished apps and >> worked very well. As Tony pointed out, battery life suffers (figure on less >> than a day's charge), and your quality experience will rely strongly on >> your wifi deployment. The ability to have a device that allows you to work >> with business apps as well as communication (email, voice, txt) is >> priceless, but in the end we did not deploy this type of technology due to >> our high noise environment, large glass in a fairly tough environment, and >> the need to have devices with battery life that could extend beyond two >> shifts (16 hours). >> >> We chose the KIRK line because of excellent battery life, excellent >> (almost scary) signal penetration in our factory environment, abuse >> survivability, and the ability to send targeted alerts to the phones >> (maintenance alerts, etc) with the 6000 server and 6020 phones, which >> replaced lost functionality that the iOS/Android platform would have >> delivered primarily. >> >> Your scenario seems to be different, and the iOS/Android choice may be a >> truly tenable solution, given the deployment of a high quality wifi >> environment. >> >> Philippe >> >> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:00 AM, Tony Graziano < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> In your case I would test coverage with "any" app, besides counterpath, >>> you can try the free 3cx (Android and iOS) app and others. The biggest >>> thing you will find with wifi -- battery life/talktime (especially when >>> received wifi signals are weak), don't hold up nearly as long as DECT. So >>> your wifi deployment, coverage has a lot to do with battery life and >>> talktime. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Andrew Radke < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Tony, >>>> >>>> We are looking at outdoor coverage but with a lot of trees and >>>> vegetation. >>>> >>>> Considering your response it shows that things have changed in recent >>>> years too… >>>> >>>> We do also have large wifi coverage already and are constantly >>>> increasing it. In the past it seemed that wifi was considered universally >>>> terrible. Has that changed? >>>> >>>> And are there any good smartphone apps? I guess it would be Android >>>> rather than iPhone since it is possible to get reasonable Android handsets >>>> cheaply on prepaid plans and then don't use the cellular side at all. But >>>> for those of us with existing iPhones is there any recommended apps? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Andrew Radke >>>> Yuruga Nursery Pty Ltd >>>> Clonal Solutions Australia Pty Ltd >>>> PO Box 220 >>>> Walkamin Qld 4872 >>>> Phone: (07) 4093 3826 >>>> Fax: (07) 4093 3869 >>>> Email: [email protected] >>>> Web: www.yuruga.com.au >>>> >>>> On 17/04/2012, at 8:04 PM, Tony Graziano wrote: >>>> >>>> You need to explain what kind of coverage you need and what kind of >>>> wireless infrastructure you have (if any). >>>> >>>> Snom makes a dect phone which also has wireless repeaters and should >>>> work fine. The battery life and talk time is very good and does not >>>> interfere with wifi at all. >>>> >>>> If you have a wifi infrastructure you could opt for an app on a >>>> smartphone. >>>> On Apr 17, 2012 12:56 AM, "Andrew Radke" <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> Just a query to see what the current thoughts are on cordless phones. >>>>> >>>>> We probably need 2-3 phones fairly soon that can transfer calls. It >>>>> would be nice (but not immediately required) to have the phones capable of >>>>> switching between multiple base stations due to the physical area to be >>>>> covered. Of course this adds a lot to the price so may be judged to be >>>>> uneconomical. >>>>> >>>>> I know this has been asked before but a lot can change with VoIP >>>>> phones. >>>>> >>>>> Andrew Radke >>>>> Yuruga Nursery Pty Ltd >>>>> Clonal Solutions Australia Pty Ltd >>>>> PO Box 220 >>>>> Walkamin Qld 4872 >>>>> Phone: (07) 4093 3826 >>>>> Fax: (07) 4093 3869 >>>>> Email: [email protected] >>>>> Web: www.yuruga.com.au >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> sipx-users mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >>>>> >>>> >>>> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk: >>>> Telephone: 434.984.8426 >>>> sip: [email protected].**net<[email protected]> >>>> >>>> Helpdesk Customers: >>>> http://myhelp.myitdepartment.**net<http://myhelp.myitdepartment.net/> >>>> Blog: http://blog.myitdepartment.net >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sipx-users mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sipx-users mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Tony Graziano, Manager >>> Telephone: 434.984.8430 >>> sip: [email protected] >>> Fax: 434.465.6833 >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Linked-In Profile: >>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4 >>> Ask about our Internet Fax services! >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk: >>> Telephone: 434.984.8426 >>> sip: [email protected].**net<[email protected]> >>> >>> Helpdesk Customers: >>> http://myhelp.myitdepartment.**net<http://myhelp.myitdepartment.net/> >>> Blog: http://blog.myitdepartment.net >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sipx-users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sipx-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sipx-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >> > > > > -- > Michael Picher, Director of Technical Services > eZuce, Inc. > > 300 Brickstone Square**** > > Suite 201**** > > Andover, MA. 01810 > O.978-296-1005 X2015 > M.207-956-0262 > @mpicher <http://twitter.com/mpicher> > www.ezuce.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and > those who don't. > > > _______________________________________________ > sipx-users mailing list > [email protected] > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >
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