On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Roy Ong <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, 2009-06-05 at 10:39 +0800, Jett Tayer wrote: > > On Fri, 2009-06-05 at 10:23 +0800, Roy Ong wrote: > > > Blame the society for being driven by $$$? Love and fresh air can only > > > take you so far. We still want the beer and the pizza don't we? :P > > > > > > IMHO, its heartening to see more options for one to be educated and > > > exposed to FOSS - UniSim, Singapore Poly, Temasek Poly, Republic Poly, > > > ITEs (to name a few) are all getting into the act. They need all the > > > support they are can get. More options for education means more choices > > > for the masses and these educational institutes are prepared to put > FOSS > > > into the hands of the students and to me, that is commendable. They are > > > prepared to arm their students with all the relevant industry practices > > > and give their students a head-start with FOSS. > > > > > > > Question is, how many instructors are willing to adjust and learn a new > > OS(Linux/BSD) and teach it confidently? > > > > I think this list and _others_ should be more visible so that students > > might see that there really are choices... > > > > - Jett > > I made the cross-over 4/5 years ago and never looked back. True, not > many will be willing to do the same. As I said before, its a chicken and > egg issue. > > - Show the instructors the money and they will gladly cross over > > - Schools are not showing Instructors the money because they are no > significant numbers in their enrollments
Precisely, why aren't students enrolling? One reason is as stated below , they are not seeing FOSS as job requirements. But most students don't even know whats FOSS means or what Linux looks like. My point has been why aren't schools doing in-camp low-cost promotions? At least then the students would know whats Linux or what it looks like. Whether they choose or not is their problem. But Schools are not doing anything on their part at all. And should students choose , they would get more enrollments right? What they got to lose? They have everything to gain. Yet they still don't do anything. My question is why? > > > - There are no significant enrollments because the students are not > seeing FOSS knowledge being listed as a requirement in the job market > > - Employers are not listing FOSS as a job requirement because they don't > run FOSS in their organizations > > - Employers are not running FOSS in their organizations because they > claim that there is a lack of knowledgeable expertise and at present > this expertise still comes at a premium, better to stick to the "old" > > - Employers also cite that there is no lead from the Govt > (everything must come from and end with the Govt? :shakehead:) > > No lead from Govt = No deployments = No job requirement = No students = > No enrollment = No instructors ...... Vicious cycle .......... > > IMHO, we just need money. Anyone has a few million $$$ to spare? We > probably have enuff FOSS brain power on the list to make it work in SG > with a few million $$$ :P I know one. Temasek Holding. > > > > No? Then I guess we will just need to plough on with whatever we can do. > If we can talk FOSS, let's talk. If we can show FOSS, let's show. If we > can convince, let's convince. If we can educate, let's educate. If we > can deploy, let's deploy. > > Not enough impact? I don't care. I do what I CAN! :) > >
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