Don't put your access point up at 300 feet. The lobes will shoot over a good portion of your customers. (I'm told 150 feet is optimal. Others might have a better idea than I do.)
Sam ...patiently waiting for Friday in Singapore...... :) On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Lancaster Networks wrote: > > > It's a brand new 300 foot tower in the middle of suburbia that we have, so no > problems with hills, its LOS to a huge amount of residential > neighborhoods and also businesses. I plan on using this as my hub for > backbone and > possibly putting some remote sites in lower areas for concentrated > coverage. > > Despite the few things I've seen on this list about failure, I think > I'm still going to invest in Smartbridge as of now, as they seem to > offer the best slew of features (POE, Tough enclosures, etc) for the > money. Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to skimp on the money part, > but I don't want to spend more than I'll make in 3 years. > > The ISP we are using for data pipes uses PPTP, does anyone see any > problems using PPTP for authentication over the wireless? > > I picture using a subscriber unit with a regular ethernet router that > will authenticate using PPTP and all should be good to get back to the > PPTP server at the ISP's head-end. > > Thursday, July 17, 2003, 4:02:16 PM, you wrote: > > p> Return-Path: <> > p> Received: from [66.150.163.162] (HELO m5) > p> by spamarrest.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.3) > p> with ESMTP id 10129227 for cbunting; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:04:26 -0700 > p> Received: from part-15.org ([198.63.203.3]) > p> by mail.fission2.com (Merak 5.9.4) with SMTP id CPA74271 > p> for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:04:18 -0400 > p> Received: from ni1.networkidl.net [64.124.106.5] by pdqlink.com with ESMTP > p> (SMTPD32-4.07) id A2AE570012C; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:10:22 CDT > p> Received: by ni1.networkidl.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) > p> id <PBSA07C9>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:02:16 -0400 > p> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > p> From: phantam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > p> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > p> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:02:16 -0400 > p> MIME-Version: 1.0 > p> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) > p> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > p> boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C34C9E.51FA7CA0" > p> Subject: RE: Re[2]: [smartBridges] AirPointPRO TOTAL > p> Precedence: bulk > p> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > p> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > p> Depends where you get the antennas from check the specs the hypers seem to > p> stretch the 120 and 180's plus the hyper's are 20db instead of 13 but there > p> quite more expensive, there 90's are actually the same as there 120's with > p> more spread... Please note BE VERY CAREFUL WITH SELECTING ANTENNAS if your > p> shooting in a valley or if there are hills around or big buildings try to > p> avoid spreading a beam that will hit them and reflect back, reflected signal > p> can cause your entire radio to misbehave and have noisey layers. > > p> Chris > > p> -----Original Message----- > p> From: Tom Haynes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > p> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 3:35 PM > p> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > p> Actually, a 13db 90* sector means that right in front of the antenna will > p> have 13db gain and 45* to either side of center will have 10db gain (90* is > p> the -3db beam). The antenna actually has coverage to 120*. A 120* antanna > p> will cover to ~150*. Now none of this matters if you use three different > p> radios on three different channels. The only time it is important is when > p> you use 1 radio with a 3 way splitter. > > p> -----Original Message----- > p> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > p> On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce > p> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 2:27 PM > p> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > p> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [smartBridges] AirPointPRO TOTAL > > > p> are you planning on using one radio or three radios ? best to ask on the > p> [EMAIL PROTECTED] list for using one radio cause there are a few people doing > p> that, but three radios using dsss you can use three channels. But if three > p> 120* sectors have overlap then two 180*'s do also, but I believe the db > p> level to be lower at the end lobes and shouldn't be a problem, three 90*'s > p> unless they are over will have null spots > > p> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > p> From: Lancaster Networks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > p> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > p> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:04:25 -0400 > > >>Hello Tom, > >> > >>Can anyone point me to the source of this information? I'm in the > >>purchasing phase right now, and was planning on (3) 120's, but would > >>the 90's be wiser? > >> > >>Thursday, July 17, 2003, 2:18:36 PM, you wrote: > >> > >>TH> Return-Path: <> > >>TH> Received: from [66.150.163.162] (HELO m5) > >>TH> by spamarrest.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.3) > >>TH> with ESMTP id 10120957 for cbunting; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:24:46 > >>TH> -0700 > >>TH> Received: from part-15.org ([198.63.203.3]) > >>TH> by mail.fission2.com (Merak 5.9.4) with SMTP id CPA74271 > >>TH> for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:24:17 > p> -0400 > >>TH> Received: from mail.lightbound.com [66.209.224.11] by pdqlink.com with > p> ESMTP > >>TH> (SMTPD32-4.07) id AB3F3D70152; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:30:23 CDT > >>TH> Received: from laptop (shvl-cbl-233-134.lightbound.com > p> [66.209.233.134]) > >>TH> by mail.lightbound.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9153C915C4 > >>TH> for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:09:10 -0500 > p> (EST) > >>TH> From: "Tom Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>TH> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>TH> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:18:36 -0500 > >>TH> Organization: Hope Wireless > >>TH> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>TH> MIME-Version: 1.0 > >>TH> Content-Type: text/plain; > >>TH> charset="US-ASCII" > >>TH> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >>TH> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) > >>TH> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >>TH> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 > >>TH> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 > >>TH> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>TH> Importance: Normal > >>TH> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] AirPointPRO TOTAL > >>TH> Precedence: bulk > >>TH> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>TH> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >>TH> Read up on sectors if you have not yet. Using 3 120* created a lot > >>TH> more overlap than you think and can cause strange thinkg to happen > >>TH> to your signal pattern. I believe that Scott recommends 3 90* > >>TH> sectors for 360* coverage, but you would have to ask Scott to be > >>TH> sure. > >> > >>TH> -----Original Message----- > >>TH> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>TH> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>TH> On Behalf Of Dan Petermann > >>TH> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 9:34 AM > >>TH> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>TH> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] AirPointPRO TOTAL > >> > >> > >>TH> That is what I thought. I've been looking at setting up 120 degree > >>TH> sectors. I like the high gain but the vertical beam width is just > >>TH> too narrow. 6.5 degrees! Or is it 13? (+/- 6.5) > >> > >>TH> I'm looking at getting the Maxrad MS024014PTNF (sectorized omni). > >>TH> Has anyone used these? Any horror stories to be aware of? > >> > >>TH> This will be my first sectorized site so I'm hoping for great > >>TH> things. > >> > >>TH> Dan Petermann > >>TH> Wyoming.com > >> > >>TH> At 09:05 AM 7/17/2003 -0400, you wrote: > >>>>With that small of a VBW ? Are you far away from your clients ? > >>>> > >>>>---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > >>>>From: phantam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:02:17 -0400 > >>>> > >>>> >That's what I have just got done installing 6 of them :) and 2 > >>>> >180's > >>>> > > >>>> >-----Original Message----- > >>>> >From: Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> >Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:00 PM > >>>> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> > > >>>> >Check this one out. Note that they also have a 90deg. > >>>> > > >>>> >http://hyperlinktech.com/web/hg2420p_120.php > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> >----- Original Message ----- > >>>> >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>> >Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 8:46 AM > >>>> >Subject: RE: [smartBridges] AirPointPRO TOTAL > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> >> > Think about it for a sec. It comes with a 13db antenna. We've > >>>> >> > been mentioning throughout different threads that SB is > >>>> >> > mistakenly limiting everything for FCC territory to a max of 30db > >>>> >> > instead of the allowed 36db so 17.5db max radio output minus > >>>> >> > 0.5db for some kind of internal pigtail plus 13db is 30db. That's > >>>> >> > 1/4 of the power you are allowed to use. You wont get anywhere > >>>> >> > with that. > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > Kevin Summers > >>>> >> > KISTech Internet Services Inc. > >>>> >> > www.kistech.com > >>>> >> > >>>> >> I was contacted by someone who claims to have a 21dB sectored > >>>> >> antenna. I'm interested. The fool thing is 72" tall (2 meters!!!) > >>>> >> and about 6" wide. 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