Don't put your access point up at 300 feet. The lobes will shoot over a 
good portion of your customers. (I'm told 150 feet is optimal. Others 
might have a better idea than I do.)

Sam
...patiently waiting for Friday in Singapore...... :)


On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Lancaster Networks wrote:

> 
> 
> It's a brand new 300 foot tower in the middle of suburbia that we have, so no
> problems with hills, its LOS to a huge amount of residential
> neighborhoods and also businesses. I plan on using this as my hub for
> backbone  and
> possibly putting some remote sites  in lower areas for concentrated
> coverage.
> 
> Despite the few things I've seen on this list about failure, I think
> I'm still going to invest in Smartbridge as of now, as they seem to
> offer the best slew of features (POE, Tough enclosures, etc) for the
> money. Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to skimp on the money part,
> but I don't want to spend more than I'll make in 3 years.
> 
> The ISP we are using for data pipes uses PPTP, does anyone see any
> problems using PPTP for authentication over the wireless?
> 
> I picture using a subscriber unit with a regular ethernet router that
> will authenticate using PPTP and all should be good to get back to the
> PPTP server at the ISP's head-end.
> 
> Thursday, July 17, 2003, 4:02:16 PM, you wrote:
> 
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> p> Depends where you get the antennas from check the specs the hypers seem to
> p> stretch the 120 and 180's plus the hyper's are 20db instead of 13 but there
> p> quite more expensive, there 90's are actually the same as there 120's with
> p> more spread... Please note BE VERY CAREFUL WITH SELECTING ANTENNAS if your
> p> shooting in a valley or if there are hills around or big buildings try to
> p> avoid spreading a beam that will hit them and reflect back, reflected signal
> p> can cause your entire radio to misbehave and have noisey layers.
> 
> p> Chris
> 
> p> -----Original Message-----
> p> From: Tom Haynes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> p> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 3:35 PM
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> p> Actually, a 13db 90* sector means that right in front of the antenna will
> p> have 13db gain and 45* to either side of center will have 10db gain (90* is
> p> the -3db beam). The antenna actually has coverage to 120*. A 120* antanna
> p> will cover to ~150*. Now none of this matters if you use three different
> p> radios on three different channels. The only time it is important is when
> p> you use 1 radio with a 3 way splitter.
> 
> p> -----Original Message-----
> p> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> p> On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce
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> 
> p> are you planning on using one radio or three radios ? best to ask on the
> p> [EMAIL PROTECTED] list for using one radio cause there are a few people doing
> p> that, but three radios using dsss you can use three channels. But if three
> p> 120* sectors have overlap then two 180*'s do also, but I believe the db
> p> level to be lower at the end lobes and shouldn't be a problem, three 90*'s
> p> unless they are over will have null spots
> 
> p> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> p> From: Lancaster Networks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> p> Date:  Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:04:25 -0400
> 
> >>Hello Tom,
> >>
> >>Can anyone point me to the source of this information? I'm in the 
> >>purchasing phase right now, and was planning on (3) 120's, but would 
> >>the 90's be wiser?
> >>
> >>Thursday, July 17, 2003, 2:18:36 PM, you wrote:
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> >>TH> From: "Tom Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >>TH> Read up on sectors if you have not yet. Using 3 120* created a lot 
> >>TH> more overlap than you think and can cause strange thinkg to happen 
> >>TH> to your signal pattern. I believe that Scott recommends 3 90* 
> >>TH> sectors for 360* coverage, but you would have to ask Scott to be 
> >>TH> sure.
> >>
> >>TH> -----Original Message-----
> >>TH> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >>TH> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>TH> On Behalf Of Dan Petermann
> >>TH> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 9:34 AM
> >>TH> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>TH> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] AirPointPRO TOTAL
> >>
> >>
> >>TH> That is what I thought. I've been looking at setting up 120 degree 
> >>TH> sectors. I like the high gain but the vertical beam width is just 
> >>TH> too narrow. 6.5 degrees! Or is it 13? (+/- 6.5)
> >>
> >>TH> I'm looking at getting the Maxrad MS024014PTNF (sectorized omni). 
> >>TH> Has anyone used these? Any horror stories to be aware of?
> >>
> >>TH> This will be my first sectorized site so I'm hoping for great 
> >>TH> things.
> >>
> >>TH> Dan Petermann
> >>TH> Wyoming.com
> >>
> >>TH> At 09:05 AM 7/17/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> >>>>With that small of a VBW ? Are you far away from your clients ?
> >>>>
> >>>>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> >>>>From: phantam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>Date:  Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:02:17 -0400
> >>>>
> >>>> >That's what I have just got done installing 6 of them :) and 2 
> >>>> >180's
> >>>> >
> >>>> >-----Original Message-----
> >>>> >From: Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> >Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:00 PM
> >>>> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> >
> >>>> >Check this one out.  Note that they also have a 90deg.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >http://hyperlinktech.com/web/hg2420p_120.php
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >----- Original Message -----
> >>>> >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>> >Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 8:46 AM
> >>>> >Subject: RE: [smartBridges] AirPointPRO TOTAL
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> > Think about it for a sec. It comes with a 13db antenna. We've
> >>>> >> > been mentioning throughout different threads that SB is 
> >>>> >> > mistakenly limiting everything for FCC territory to a max of 30db 
> >>>> >> > instead of the allowed 36db so 17.5db max radio output minus 
> >>>> >> > 0.5db for some kind of internal pigtail plus 13db is 30db. That's 
> >>>> >> > 1/4 of the power you are allowed to use. You wont get anywhere 
> >>>> >> > with that.
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > Kevin Summers
> >>>> >> > KISTech Internet Services Inc.
> >>>> >> > www.kistech.com
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> I was contacted by someone who claims to have a 21dB sectored
> >>>> >> antenna. I'm interested. The fool thing is 72" tall (2 meters!!!) 
> >>>> >> and about 6" wide. But I'm interested.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Tim Foster
> >>>> >> www.AledoBroadBand.com
> >>>> >> Aledo's only high-speed ISP
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