You haven't said whether you tried to get signal from their place through the tree on 
top of their roof ?

What was it like ?

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From: "Gloria Vester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Mon, 18 Aug 2003 22:04:22 -0500

>The tree is not on their property, it is on their next door neighbor's.
>Believe me, if it was on their property that tree would have been history
>the day we first went out there.  The customer wants this service really
>bad.  We are in an area where the only options for Internet access are dial
>up or ISDN.  We are the first broadband provider here and people want it
>very badly.  Anyway, what good would it do to put it in the tree?  Its still
>going to be surrounded by foliage, isn't it?  The trees are going to be a
>problem for us at many locations, not just this one.  We are just getting
>started, this is only our second install.  I think we are going to have to
>rethink the NLOS equipment, its just the cost of the CPE that kept us from
>going with something like Waverider to begin with.
>
>Thanks everyone,
>Gloria
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "John Hokenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:56 PM
>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] how would you handle this situation?
>
>
>> If the tree is on their property, why not just put an outdoor Airbridge in
>> the tree, then feed it with a router to isolate the lan from you.
>>
>> JH
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gloria Vester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 6:41 PM
>> Subject: [smartBridges] how would you handle this situation?
>>
>>
>> > OK, guys, I need your help.  I thought I could figure this one out, but
>I
>> am
>> > out of ideas.  We have been working on a customer install for over a
>week
>> > now with no success.  I apologize if this is a long post, but I want to
>> give
>> > you the correct info.
>> > The customer is a real estate office about 2 miles south of our water
>> tower.
>> > They want our most expensive business package and are not quibbling over
>> > money for equipment or the install fee.  We went there last Monday and
>> > discovered a huge tree directly in our LOS.  No way to go over it
>without
>> a
>> > tower, this tree is at least 60' tall.  One story building on a main
>hwy.
>> > The only way to get LOS is to go out next to the highway where we can
>see
>> > around the tree.  Problem then is that we are in the highway right of
>way.
>> > The customer asked if we could mount their antenna on a moveable tripod
>> and
>> > they would put it out by the road each morning and bring it into their
>> > carport each night.  As crazy as it sounded, we agreed.  Then we started
>> > trying to get them hooked up.  Discovered they had the Blaster worm,
>> cleaned
>> > and removed it.  Tried a D-Link 520+ PCI card with an 18dbi Maxrad panel
>> > antenna and got a good signal.  We were able to associate once.  But
>when
>> we
>> > tried to get on the Internet, their computer wouldn't resolve any DNS
>> names.
>> > We worked on that problem off and on for three days before I discovered
>> that
>> > the TCP/IP stack was corrupted.  I downloaded FixXPWinsock utility and
>> fixed
>> > that.  Then their computer kept locking up.  So I uninstalled the D-Link
>> and
>> > it stopped locking up.  So I gave them an airBridge Indoor, but have not
>> > been able to associate with the access point.  Tried a bigger antenna, a
>> > 24dbi grid.  Could get good signal strength, but could not associate.
>> Each
>> > time I switch them back over to their dial up account so they can work
>> until
>> > we get back up there, the TCP/IP stack gets corrupted.  I have fixed it
>at
>> > least a dozen times.  This is costing me a fortune in man hours and we
>are
>> > getting nowhere.  The customer really, really wants this service and
>they
>> > want to help promote our business - setup a display in their office with
>> our
>> > flyers and brochures, putting our stuff in their welcome baskets for new
>> > residents, etc.  But they are losing faith in us and I am starting to
>> wonder
>> > if we should just tell them we can't do it.  At this point my options
>are
>> to
>> > reformat their computer to fix the flakiness and corrupted winsock, and
>> then
>> > hope it will associate and work right, or just tell them we can't hook
>> them
>> > up.  If any of you have any ideas, please let me know.  I really want
>this
>> > customer, but I don't know what else to try.  I know this was long, and
>I
>> > left out a lot of things we have tried to do, but I really need help
>here.
>> >
>> > Thank you in advance for your help,
>> > Gloria
>> >
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