Thats right dont let me scare you away I just didnt have the time to mess with 
it for to long..
Quoting Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Don't let Martin scare you away from MT, it is a great router OS.  It's a
> little intimidating at first, but once you get the hang of it, it is pretty
> intuitive.  I read once that you said you had a few computer geeks in your
> employ?  If so, throw it at them and see if they can get installed for you.
> Then once your rules are set up, you can think of it like the 'Ronco
> Rotisserie' "just set it and forget it".  I love MT.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gloria Vester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 6:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
> 
> 
> > Well, that is what I had heard from others, so decided to try the BriLan.
> I
> > got as far as loading the software on the box, gave it an IP, and put it
> on
> > my network but couldn't see it.  Basically, I couldn't figure out what to
> do
> > with it and gave up.  Then Eje suggested the MikroTik and it seemed easy
> the
> > way he told me to set it up, but I can't get the CD version of the
> software
> > to load on my box, which I know is a working PC.  Truthfully, I have had
> > very little time to work on it, I've been so busy getting everything else
> up
> > and running and dealing with customers, that I haven't had a lot of time
> to
> > spend on it.  But I couldn't get either the BriLan or the MikroTik
> software
> > to load and work, and I know the box we put them on is good.
> >
> > Gloria
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Martin Moreno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 8:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
> >
> >
> > > Brilan is way easier to deal with althought the mikrotik has more
> features
> > but
> > > Brilan will have the same by the end of the year. The brilan demo keep
> in
> > mind
> > > only works for 2 hours then you have to reboot the box to get another 2
> > hours I
> > > found this out the hard way. It will not work well on those all in one
> > machiens
> > > like HP, Compaq etc.. I had mine up and running in less then a 1/2 hour
> > > Miktorik is a pain in the ass to set up and maintain with the gui as
> well
> > as
> > > without the command line interface.. and trying to get support forget
> ti
> I
> > went
> > > 3 months postig to their mail forum trying to figure out how to do
> bridge
> > mode
> > > and no one ever answered so I went to Brilan Tony is awesome and
> sometimes
> > > answers at wierd hours when you least expect it which is awesome..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You have to jump throug 3-4 hoops to make a bandwidth queue then mac
> > > autehntication is a pain then you haev to do several other thigns to
> > throttle
> > > one customer where as brilan takes abotu 2 steps and takes me less then
> 2
> > min
> > > to configure a user..
> > >
> > >
> > > Quoting Gloria Vester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > > > OK, can you help me figure out why the MikroTik router software I
> > downloaded
> > > > and burned to CD won't load on the box we built for it?  I have
> burned
> > the CD
> > > > three times, downloaded the file twice, but it will not load.  When I
> > try to
> > > > boot from the CD, it comes up to the first line, something about
> loading
> > a
> > > > kernel, then beeps and throws garbage on the screen that continues
> > rolling
> > > > until you shut it off.  We built a box with an ECS K7S5A mobo, 700
> MHz
> > AMD
> > > > proc, 3 GB HD, and standard AGP video card.  Any ideas?  I have been
> on
> > the
> > > > air for over a month now with no bandwidth control, even though I am
> > selling
> > > > tiered bandwidth, because I have not been able to get anything
> working.
> > I
> > > > tried the BriLan demo and couldn't get it working, now the MikroTik
> > won't
> > > > even load.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any help,
> > > > Gloria
> > > >
> > > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >   From: Kevin Summers
> > > >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >   Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 6:35 PM
> > > >   Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   The MikroTik router OS runs on just about any old PC you might
> > > >   have laying around. Throw two network cards into it and you've got
> > > >   a router.
> > > >   Kevin Summers
> > > >   KISTech Internet Services Inc.
> > > >   www.kistech.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >     -----Original Message-----
> > > >     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sevak Avakians
> > > >     Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:51 PM
> > > >     To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >     Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >     Hi Kevin,
> > > >
> > > >     I've taken a look at MicroTik's website and it seems to be
> software
> > that
> > > > runs on a desktop.  Is this correct or is it a separate piece of
> > hardware
> > > > similar to a Linksys or Cysco, etc. router?
> > > >
> > > >     Thanks,
> > > >     Sevak
> > > >
> > > >     On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 19:25, Kevin Summers wrote:
> > > > Actually it's just the PPTP and HotSpot clients that get the
> > > > DHCP addresses. PPPoE clients just get their assigned IP from
> > > > the PPPoE login.
> > > >
> > > > The MikroTik router actually handles the HotSpot login page. Through
> > > > the use of Firewall rules we've set things up to allow a link from
> > > > the HotSpot login page to a secure page on our web server so that
> > > > people can sign up.
> > > >
> > > > Kevin Summers
> > > > KISTech Internet Services Inc.
> > > > www.kistech.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:14 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Kevin,
> > > > >
> > > > > Question,
> > > > >
> > > > > Why do you need to give your clients a DHCP IP ?  The PPPOE does
> that
> > > > > already correct? Also, using the hotspot stuff, if a custoemer
> > assoicates
> > > > > with one of my APs, could i setup a way so that they could only get
> to
> > my
> > > > > webserver?  or a speical page saying, you can get our signal ??
> > > > >
> > > > > Dennis
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > > From: "Kevin Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:23 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We're using the MikroTik Router OS for PPTP, PPPoE, and HotSpot
> > > > > > authentication using username and password. No WEP encryption on
> > > > > > any of the network. If it's so insecure, why take the performance
> > > > > > hit. Can't do WEP when doing HotSpot anyway...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Radios and such are on private static IPs, customers get a
> private
> > > > > > DHCP IP until they log in, then they are given either their NATed
> > > > > > private DHCP IP, or their public static IP.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kevin Summers
> > > > > > KISTech Internet Services Inc.
> > > > > > www.kistech.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rudolph
> > Worrell
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:08 PM
> > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > Subject: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How do you authenticate your customers?  I am simply suing WEP
> and
> > a
> > > > > DHCP
> > > > > > > server.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How many IP's do you have in your IP pool?  I have 1000 but I
> am
> > > > > > > not sure it
> > > > > > > will be enough when I get up to about 250 customers.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I use a separate IP scheme for the CPE and backhuals and this
> > works
> > > > > fine.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anyone else doing this?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Rudolph Worrell
> > > > > > > President
> > > > > > > Phone:(540)664-3950
> > > > > > > Fax:(270)458-6431
> > > > > > > www.wave2net.com
> > > > > > >
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