My computer geeks built the box for me, but they don't want anything to do
with setting up the software.  They like to build and tinker with the
hardware, and they do customer installs, but when it comes to my network,
they don't want to get near it.  I may have to make them change out the mobo
if the MT software doesn't like this one for whatever reason.  I do not
think I will have a problem setting up MT once I get it loaded, I have
plenty of networking experience.  I just can't get it to even boot and load.

Thanks,
Gloria

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Client Authentication


> Don't let Martin scare you away from MT, it is a great router OS.  It's a
> little intimidating at first, but once you get the hang of it, it is
pretty
> intuitive.  I read once that you said you had a few computer geeks in your
> employ?  If so, throw it at them and see if they can get installed for
you.
> Then once your rules are set up, you can think of it like the 'Ronco
> Rotisserie' "just set it and forget it".  I love MT.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gloria Vester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 6:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
>
>
> > Well, that is what I had heard from others, so decided to try the
BriLan.
> I
> > got as far as loading the software on the box, gave it an IP, and put it
> on
> > my network but couldn't see it.  Basically, I couldn't figure out what
to
> do
> > with it and gave up.  Then Eje suggested the MikroTik and it seemed easy
> the
> > way he told me to set it up, but I can't get the CD version of the
> software
> > to load on my box, which I know is a working PC.  Truthfully, I have had
> > very little time to work on it, I've been so busy getting everything
else
> up
> > and running and dealing with customers, that I haven't had a lot of time
> to
> > spend on it.  But I couldn't get either the BriLan or the MikroTik
> software
> > to load and work, and I know the box we put them on is good.
> >
> > Gloria
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Martin Moreno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 8:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
> >
> >
> > > Brilan is way easier to deal with althought the mikrotik has more
> features
> > but
> > > Brilan will have the same by the end of the year. The brilan demo keep
> in
> > mind
> > > only works for 2 hours then you have to reboot the box to get another
2
> > hours I
> > > found this out the hard way. It will not work well on those all in one
> > machiens
> > > like HP, Compaq etc.. I had mine up and running in less then a 1/2
hour
> > > Miktorik is a pain in the ass to set up and maintain with the gui as
> well
> > as
> > > without the command line interface.. and trying to get support forget
ti
> I
> > went
> > > 3 months postig to their mail forum trying to figure out how to do
> bridge
> > mode
> > > and no one ever answered so I went to Brilan Tony is awesome and
> sometimes
> > > answers at wierd hours when you least expect it which is awesome..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You have to jump throug 3-4 hoops to make a bandwidth queue then mac
> > > autehntication is a pain then you haev to do several other thigns to
> > throttle
> > > one customer where as brilan takes abotu 2 steps and takes me less
then
> 2
> > min
> > > to configure a user..
> > >
> > >
> > > Quoting Gloria Vester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > > > OK, can you help me figure out why the MikroTik router software I
> > downloaded
> > > > and burned to CD won't load on the box we built for it?  I have
burned
> > the CD
> > > > three times, downloaded the file twice, but it will not load.  When
I
> > try to
> > > > boot from the CD, it comes up to the first line, something about
> loading
> > a
> > > > kernel, then beeps and throws garbage on the screen that continues
> > rolling
> > > > until you shut it off.  We built a box with an ECS K7S5A mobo, 700
MHz
> > AMD
> > > > proc, 3 GB HD, and standard AGP video card.  Any ideas?  I have been
> on
> > the
> > > > air for over a month now with no bandwidth control, even though I am
> > selling
> > > > tiered bandwidth, because I have not been able to get anything
> working.
> > I
> > > > tried the BriLan demo and couldn't get it working, now the MikroTik
> > won't
> > > > even load.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any help,
> > > > Gloria
> > > >
> > > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >   From: Kevin Summers
> > > >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >   Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 6:35 PM
> > > >   Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   The MikroTik router OS runs on just about any old PC you might
> > > >   have laying around. Throw two network cards into it and you've got
> > > >   a router.
> > > >   Kevin Summers
> > > >   KISTech Internet Services Inc.
> > > >   www.kistech.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >     -----Original Message-----
> > > >     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sevak Avakians
> > > >     Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:51 PM
> > > >     To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >     Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >     Hi Kevin,
> > > >
> > > >     I've taken a look at MicroTik's website and it seems to be
> software
> > that
> > > > runs on a desktop.  Is this correct or is it a separate piece of
> > hardware
> > > > similar to a Linksys or Cysco, etc. router?
> > > >
> > > >     Thanks,
> > > >     Sevak
> > > >
> > > >     On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 19:25, Kevin Summers wrote:
> > > > Actually it's just the PPTP and HotSpot clients that get the
> > > > DHCP addresses. PPPoE clients just get their assigned IP from
> > > > the PPPoE login.
> > > >
> > > > The MikroTik router actually handles the HotSpot login page. Through
> > > > the use of Firewall rules we've set things up to allow a link from
> > > > the HotSpot login page to a secure page on our web server so that
> > > > people can sign up.
> > > >
> > > > Kevin Summers
> > > > KISTech Internet Services Inc.
> > > > www.kistech.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:14 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Kevin,
> > > > >
> > > > > Question,
> > > > >
> > > > > Why do you need to give your clients a DHCP IP ?  The PPPOE does
> that
> > > > > already correct? Also, using the hotspot stuff, if a custoemer
> > assoicates
> > > > > with one of my APs, could i setup a way so that they could only
get
> to
> > my
> > > > > webserver?  or a speical page saying, you can get our signal ??
> > > > >
> > > > > Dennis
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > > From: "Kevin Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:23 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We're using the MikroTik Router OS for PPTP, PPPoE, and HotSpot
> > > > > > authentication using username and password. No WEP encryption on
> > > > > > any of the network. If it's so insecure, why take the
performance
> > > > > > hit. Can't do WEP when doing HotSpot anyway...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Radios and such are on private static IPs, customers get a
private
> > > > > > DHCP IP until they log in, then they are given either their
NATed
> > > > > > private DHCP IP, or their public static IP.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kevin Summers
> > > > > > KISTech Internet Services Inc.
> > > > > > www.kistech.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rudolph
> > Worrell
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:08 PM
> > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > Subject: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How do you authenticate your customers?  I am simply suing WEP
> and
> > a
> > > > > DHCP
> > > > > > > server.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How many IP's do you have in your IP pool?  I have 1000 but I
am
> > > > > > > not sure it
> > > > > > > will be enough when I get up to about 250 customers.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I use a separate IP scheme for the CPE and backhuals and this
> > works
> > > > > fine.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anyone else doing this?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Rudolph Worrell
> > > > > > > President
> > > > > > > Phone:(540)664-3950
> > > > > > > Fax:(270)458-6431
> > > > > > > www.wave2net.com
> > > > > > >
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