Eric,

Thanks. I guess now I am confused. I always interpreted Model as a toplevel 
parent. If I understand this right the practice is to have a transform group 
underneath the Model and the rest of the hierarchy underneath the transform 
group? All animation is then performed at the transform group and below while 
the model is nothing more than a "mini scene" container and kinematics at model 
level are ignored. Is that a correct assumption?   

--
Joey Ponthieux
LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES)
Mymic Technical Services
NASA Langley Research Center
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eric Thivierge
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 11:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Models and ICE

Well even outside the realm of ICE, moving the model from zero has always been 
frowned upon.

When dealing with objects with simulations on them that are under the model, 
the model's matrix if not at world zero can do funky things and have you 
pulling out hair and punching babies. Not that I've ever punched a baby...


Eric Thivierge
===============
Character TD / RnD
Hybride Technologies


On June-20-13 11:48:45 AM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] wrote:
> That’s really disappointing to hear.
>
> I’ve got a large set of previously built model assets I want to use. I 
> could just convert them to old school and parent their structure with 
> a null as a opposed to a model, but that seems a real waste. It also 
> seems contradictory to where ICE was headed.
>
> What’s the point of expanding ICE beyond particles or point clouds if 
> it’s not recommended to use it on model assets?
>
> --
>
> Joey Ponthieux
>
> LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES)
>
> Mymic Technical Services
>
> NASA Langley Research Center
>
> __________________________________________________
>
> Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
>
> represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
>
> *From:*[email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Peter 
> Agg
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2013 11:40 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Models and ICE
>
> I would not recommend using ICE on models, to be honest - have a null 
> underneath it and apply it to that instead. In my (kinda) humble 
> opinion; if a model is anywhere but world zero I disprove. :)
>
> On 20 June 2013 16:31, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> Is there a standard procedure for how to use ICE with Models?
>
> Is it not recommended to apply ICE to Models then?
>
>
> --
> Joey Ponthieux
> LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES) Mymic Technical 
> Services NASA Langley Research Center 
> __________________________________________________
>
> Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
>
> represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>
> [mailto:[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Eric 
> Thivierge
> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 11:27 AM
> To: [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Models and ICE
>
> That may return the scene root if the model is under the scene root 
> though.
>
>
> Eric Thivierge
> ===============
> Character TD / RnD
> Hybride Technologies
>
>
> On June-20-13 11:17:02 AM, Matt Morris wrote:
> > If its a model you might try using this_model instead of self?
> >
> >
> > On 20 June 2013 15:56, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] 
> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
> >
> >     I’ve run into the situation where I attempt to apply an ICE tree
> >     to a Model, but the ICE window browser gives the status____
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     “All items hidden due to a filter”____
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     If I proceed to create an ICE tree on the Model, it works, but
> >     does not behave as expected.____
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     Further, if the Model’s name is “Test”, and I attempt to Set data
> >     on it with____
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     Test.kine.pathcns.perc____
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     It is valid,____
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     But this:____
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     self.kine.pathcns.perc____
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     is not valid and lights up like a stop light.____
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     What did I get wrong?____
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     --____
> >
> >     Joey Ponthieux____
> >
> >     LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES)____
> >
> >     Mymic Technical Services____
> >
> >     NASA Langley Research Center____
> >
> >     ______________________________________________________
> >
> >     Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do
> >     not ____
> >
> >     represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.____
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >
> >
> >
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