This thread is simultaneously awesome and horrendous. I need anti-depressants....

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On 7/31/2013 3:27 AM, Jordi Bares wrote:
I meant "wherever the decision makers are now.." or course.

Jordi Bares
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On 31 Jul 2013, at 09:24, Jordi Bares <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

I could safely say that since the acquisition it has been a downhill experience and I can only think on blaming AD management, whoever the decision makers are now let's make sure we keep an eye on them as it is very likely they will f*ck everything else they touch.

Strategic thinking only, nothing personal.

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On 31 Jul 2013, at 07:49, Raffaele Fragapane <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Last time I heard a definite figure it was 12, later on I heard a not-as-reliable 14. I'd say between 10-15 actual developers sounds like the realistic ballpark (without management etc).

Don't think Maya has hundreds though :)

I think currently one of the largest, if not the largest, permanently staffed (so exclude temp contractors and third parties) might actually be C4D's.


On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Szabolcs Matefy <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Exactly how many developers Softimage really has?

    I doubt if Mudbox will be implemented in Maya, but who knows
    what AD is planning. It is sure the Softimage is not on their
    hot topic list.

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    <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of
    *Greg Punchatz


    *Sent:* Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:23 AM
    *To:* Softimage List
    *Subject:* Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I
    want my moneyback!

     As I find out more and more about what is going on behind the
    scenes at at AD in regards to Softimage (plus all the others)
    the more and more angry I get.  And frankly the more I want my
    support money back, seriously.

    This has been a huge bait and switch scam....  I feel like I
    have been consistently lied to about the future of Soft, there
    is even a video of a "product manager of the week"  telling me
    the future of Softimage is _good_ on the Autodesk site.  Buyers
    remorse is one thing, but frankly no one has been honest with us
    about where all of this was headed, in fact I would say that I
    was deliberately lied to by the PR machine that is AD. The video
    of Daniel Tutino talking about the future of softimage is a
    prime example of AD misleading us. What's sad if you watch the
    video, he is acting like a really bad liar .  ( I have the video
    downloaded just in case I need it to back up my case against AD.)

     First off I wish I would have NEVER bought a suite... I did not
    want a single dollar of mine going to support Maya, but
    apparently if you jumped on the suite bandwagon your money went
    toward a bazzilion Maya developers,  even if you checked
    "softimage is my main interest"  in the AD suite surveys.  I
    wanted a Softimage branded suite for that very reason.  Now from
    what I gather soft has less developers than my hand has fingers,
    and Maya has over a hundred??  WTF are all those developers
    working on, really? 100 devs working under the bad management of
    AD guys cant even compete with 15 devs working at an under
    funded Softimage run by Avid .

     I am also hugely disappointed in Mudbox... The only thing I
    ended up using in the whole suite is SOFTIMAGE.. Zbrush and Mari
    got my personal dollars because they delivered while AD
    promised.  Now Luc Eric is all but saying Mudbox is going into
    Maya on Softimage forums.... Do the powers that be at AD still
    think putting everything into one app makes sense?? There is a
    reason why niche products do a better job at niche work :)

    I would be happy with if AD made an attempt at a next gen app, I
    would give that a shot....but I passed on Maya for a reason.

    I paid my support so Softimage could be developed further....not
    so AD could put a nail in its coffin.

    Feeling like I just got robbed... is there something we can do
    as a group to get our voices heard?  Anyone know any good
    lawyers that will work for next years support money ;)

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