o yeah devs hope you have seen this one by paul smith :)
https://vimeo.com/23308401

I think a lot of negativity came because the future of softimage is so
insecure.
I sometimes have nightmares where softimage is gone. Not just from my pc,
but everywhere except my head, i can find nothing about it. No mailing
list, no forum, not on the autodesk site.


2013/8/21 Angus Davidson <[email protected]>

>  Hi Raffaele
>
>
>
> While I agree with your firstpoint, You cant really compare something that
> is packaged vs something that is ongoing I do think your being a bit
> sensitive about people expressing their frustrations Before coming to
> education I worked as a developer in a big corporation (for south africa
> anyway) and you need to be able to separate people venting from stuff that
> is valid to what you are doing. That is what part of being a professional
> developer is. It by default requires you to have a think skin and an
> ability to see behind what that person is saying.
>
>
>
> Yes there is a fair amount of negativity around, but most of it has very
> valid reasons for being there. Trying to turn that around is what the Devs
> are trying to do. I really look forward to  time when the vast majority of
> the posts are more positive, but that will only come from
> when REALISTIC expectations are considered to be met (I of course exclude
> my unrealisttic expectaion of a mac version of XSI from that ;)
>
>
>
> Point is this is one of the few places people cant vent their frustrations
> with hope of it being read and possibly acted on by the appropriate people.
> In a lot of ways its valuable for them to see the scope of their task. The
> good and the bad.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Angus
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Raffaele Fragapane [[email protected]]
> *Sent:* 21 August 2013 09:35 AM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Softimage 2015 User Survey
>
>     I was involved with that from inception (of its integration) to
> launch and for future integration steps (coming CGPortfolio revamp GCS has
> been talking about for a while).
>
> It's an offline rendering engine that pre-bakes a lot of stuff, that's
> what it boils down to.
> If you're willing to entertain the idea of having non-deforming characters
> with channels limited to four entries into a single pixel shader rendering
> offline for seconds to minutes before they can be orbited around, then you
> could call it a viewport. Make sure you don't blow the polycount limit
> either.
> Me? I wouldn't call it that (a viewport).
>
>  If you want to beg for anything beg for the VP2 ubershader (DX11 only)
> that's in Maya, comparing Verold to a DCC viewport is apples and oranges.
>
>  Please, could we have at least ONE thread spanning more than a handful of
> e-mails at a time without using words like embarassing? Particularly one
> where people wonder why developers are quiet on the list.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Mirko Jankovic <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>> another one for survey..
>>
>>  http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=2&t=1119260&page=1&pp=15
>>
>>  now inside browser you can have better viewport than in SI. it is
>> embarrassing to have to rely on 3d party small programs in order to see
>> your work with all textures that are industry standard for years now. :)
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Chris Chia <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Doeke,
>>> This survey is posted here to seek for a bigger audience as it's result
>>> would be useful for certain decision needed for Linux support.
>>> Of course we do contact the users and sometimes we brought it offline
>>> [out of mailinglist] and emailed users instead to collect more information.
>>>
>>> And lastly, please rest assured that many eyes are on this list.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:
>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Doeke Wartena
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:19 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 User Survey
>>>
>>>  I wondered, are people that work on softimage ever active on the
>>> mailinglist apart from asking for a survey?
>>> In other words, how is the contact between the creators and the users?
>>>
>>>  2013/8/19 Rob Wuijster <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> Just a friendly warning, this only works without issues on non-UEFI
>>> machines.
>>> Due to the UEFI 'Secure Boot' Wubi will not run, and could in some cases
>>> destroy data on disk.
>>> So if you recently bought a new (W8) pc, chances are it boots with UEFI.
>>> So YMMV on these pc's with Ubuntu....
>>>
>>> But yes, there are tricks to work around this if you want ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> \/-------------\/----------------\/
>>> On 16-8-2013 19:29, Alan Fregtman wrote:
>>> If anyone is new to Linux but wants to get their feet wet in the easiest
>>> way possible, check out the Wubi installer:
>>> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer
>>>
>>> It will install as a program under Windows and will set up dual boot
>>> perfectly for you without touching your partitions (using a file as a
>>> virtual disk.) Because of this virtual disk thing, it's not recommended for
>>> very serious use, but it's a great way to try things out...
>>>
>>> and if you don't like it, go to Windows, Control Panel, Uninstall
>>> Programs, type in Wubi and that's it.
>>>
>>> If you do end up liking I suggest install Ubuntu with the install cd on
>>> a real partition. Copying your settings is not hard, if you're worried
>>> about that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Andres Stephens <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> I'm curious about Linux. As.. the multiprocessor support would be
>>> perfect for some machines we are thinking to buy as servers for a
>>> renderfarm.
>>>
>>> I use Windows 7 and 8 a lot, and I use thirdparty apps for multidesktop
>>> features, with the functions like the ones mentioned below. I am starting
>>> to use free software, like GIMP, Blender and other suites for my needs, and
>>> wondered what other pro's of Linux to consider the switch. It would be nice
>>> to have Softimage as an easy package for Linux based renderfarm solutions
>>> or alternative OS solutions.
>>>
>>> The last mail you wrote was good to know, other than the conflicting
>>> intuous/bamboo driver conflict and multi user accounts logged in on
>>> different monitors at the same time, I do do the same virtual desktop
>>> system in Windows (Virtuawin or Dexpot) , and yes also, there are some
>>> other great productivity tools I use in Windows I am sure I'd miss in
>>> Linux. Many pro's and con's.
>>>
>>> If SI was an option for some kind of linux system, I would consider it
>>> once I upgrade to new hardware that Windows couldn't take advantage of.
>>>
>>> Any "ease of use" and "compatibility" development is welcome.
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>>
>>> > Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 18:34:51 +0200
>>>  > From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>>
>>> > To: [email protected]<mailto:
>>> [email protected]>
>>>  > Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 User Survey
>>> >
>>> > ...you do realize that i can make the exact same statement with a
>>> search
>>> > and replace for linux vs windows, do you?
>>> >
>>> > just sayin'...
>>> >
>>> > but joking aside: for me switching to linux brought a lot more
>>> > advantages than staying with good old windows.
>>> >
>>> > first i don't miss any tools. i have softimage, mudbox, maya,
>>> photoshop,
>>> > inkscape and all our inhouse editors. they all work fine. secondly, the
>>> > killerfeature of linux is its window managers. in my case mate desktop.
>>> > its slick, fast and powerful. i can have as many virtual desktops as i
>>> > want, keep several apps open in parallel (and not stacked up behind
>>> each
>>> > other), each screen is customized to my needs. sessions get saved, i
>>> can
>>> > switch and shuffle them around with a few keystrokes and i almost never
>>> > reboot - updates happen in the background...i have two monitors chained
>>> > to one desktop and another monitor on a second x session that kind of
>>> > acts like a second computer with a shared mouse, keyboard and
>>> > copy/paste-buffer for email etc.. it's the real life equivalent of
>>> those
>>> > funky hollywood-operating systems that we've all seen so many times
>>> > before and it's boosting my day2day performance a LOT.
>>> >
>>> > oh, and i can switch between wacom intous and bamboo without
>>> > deinstalling and installing drivers. try that with windows :)
>>> >
>>> > cheers!
>>> > chris
>>> >
>>> > On 08/16/2013 06:05 PM, Mirko Jankovic wrote:
>>> > > yea so far I also saw only problems with linux after trying to switch
>>> > > couple times....
>>> > > fro missing so many other tools to making every day tasks a
>>> nightmare.
>>> > > sorry but if you don't have an Linux guru around then you will spend
>>> more
>>> > > time trying to do something on system instead of actually working on
>>> your
>>> > > job.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>>  > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Martin <[email protected]<mailto:
>>> [email protected]>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> And why is that? What does make SI Linux better than Windows
>>> version? From
>>> > >> an artist point of view I see more cons than pros in switching from
>>> Windows
>>> > >> to Linux, apart from dealing with Linux based networks and farms.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> M.Yara
>>> > >> Sent from my iPhone
>>> > >>
>>>  > >> On 2013/08/17, at 0:43, Bruno-Pierre Jobin <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>> Totally agree with Miquel. I'd switch to linux tomorrow if the
>>> > >> installation process was easier.
>>> > >>
>>> >
>>>
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>>
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