It entirely depends on budget. 2s is more like the most cels any given character gets in a very fluid shot, often multiple characters get their holds and actions interleaved, if it's not jarring, to give the impression of 1s. Rarely you get 2s or 3s held with facial on 1s if there's actual lip syncing going.
Very rarely, Don Bluth's action sequences rarely, you see some 1s. The problem with 1s is that you're kind of forced to do everything in 1s at that point, making those sequences phenomenally expensive, especially if they need shading work, and that's accounting for Korean rates for fills. That's Disney quality though, a lot of Western animation will rarely hit 2s unless it's high budget cinematic. When you start moving east you encounter 12s and 24s with weak overlays on 4s and 6s :p Stop motion instead tends to be jarring any time you interleave, mostly due to the rich quality of the photography not letting you get away with it, so it's frequently posed on 2s with no interleaves, the actual shooting could be on 1s with camera or light changes though, or it could be on 2s with holds. On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Matt Lind <[email protected]> wrote: > I used to be a cel animator, I'm pretty sure it's on 2's for the general > case. > > > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ahmidou Lyazidi > *Sent:* Thursday, January 30, 2014 3:07 AM > > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: The Lego Movie: Behind the Scenes and How They Made the > Movie > > > > Cell animation isn't 2's, it's just a varying rate depending of the motion > speed, it can be 1,2,3's sometimes more. > > And for stop motion, it really depends, for example when aardman and > dreamworks did Flushed Away, > > they freeze 1 frame every 4 frames to mimic their stop motion look. > > It might also be an economic choice. > > > > > ----------------------------------------------- > Ahmidou Lyazidi > Director | TD | CG artist > http://vimeo.com/ahmidou/videos > http://www.cappuccino-films.com > > > > 2014-01-29 Matt Lind <[email protected]> > > Stop motion is typically shot on 1's, cel animation on 2's. > > Haven't seen the Lego movie, but what usually gives stop motion that jerky > quality is the lack of motion blur, and the depth of field not quite > mimicking the real world. > > > Matt > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Eric Thivierge > > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 10:11 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: The Lego Movie: Behind the Scenes and How They Made the Movie > > I left Animal probably 1/3 of the way into Lego after I finished on WWD > and I didn't see any stop motion going on from that side of the studio. > Not sure what was done after I left. If you wait like 3-4 hours Raf should > be awake and have downed a nice Australian coffee and will be able to shed > more light. > > I do remember them animating on 2's at one point to give that stop-mo look > though. > > Eric T. > > On Monday, January 27, 2014 1:05:11 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote: > > >From what I've seen around the web, the director has been going > > >around > > saying it's a mixed of stop-motion and CGI. Are there any frames that > > are actually stop motion? > > > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Alan Fregtman <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> Nice!! Great work, animals. :) > >> > >>> > > > -- Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it and let them flee like the dogs they are!
