Thanks for clarifying Maurice.

Morten



Den 4. marts 2014 kl. 20:14 skrev Maurice Patel
<[email protected]>:

> Yes this is the case.
> Unfortunately these days license agreements are rather complex. The
clause is there because subscription includes a certain level of support
which we are not going to be offering in 2 years time. Whatever choice you
make now will have pros and cons and these have been discussed on several
threads but basically boil down to:
>
> -       You can keep using the license you have in perpetuity, either by
itself or augmented by other non-Autodesk software, a lot of which was
discussed elsewhere
>
> -       Migrate to the Transition Bundle - this is a single license that
allows you to use two products (Softimage and either Maya or 3ds Max). You
will now be able to use both products concurrently (the license functions
like a Suite license). If you are on Subscription you can migrate at no
cost. Even if you migrate you will still have two options depending on
whether Maya (or 3ds Max) works for you or not:
>
> o   If it is not working out for you, you can stop renewing subscription
- you will then still be able to use both products in perpetuity (at
whatever release version Maya or 3ds Max is on at the time)
>
> o   If it is working for you and you renew Subscription, after two years
when we stop support, you will be moved to wither a Maya-only or 3ds
Max-only subscription plan when we stop Softimage support.
>
> o   If you want to migrate but continue to access Softimage after two
years, we recommend that you not transition all your seats or if you do not
keep the Subscription current on all of them - that way you will have a few
licenses that you can maintain to access older projects
> Maurice
>
> Maurice Patel
> Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134
>
> From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peter Agg
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 1:47 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: License to END if you migrate?!
>
> I imagine this is Autodesk protecting itself legally - if they sell you a
product then I'm pretty sure they're obliged to provide a level of support
for it.
> Doesn't make it any less silly for us though, of course.
>
> On 4 March 2014 18:09, Kris Rivel
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Ha...I read too fast the first time...now its even more confusing!  So if
you want to continue to use it, don't renew...but doing so forfeits the
right to upgrade Max or Maya?  That doesn't make any sense.  Please tell me
this an error.  Everyone that is a paid customer should get transitioned to
either one and always be able to run Softimage.  I agree this needs to be
revised.
>
> Kris
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Jens Lindgren
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> My translation of it:
> "If you want to use Softimage after the transition period, stop paying
the Subscription. If you also want to continue using Max or Maya that you
have had the pleasure to try for free for two years, you are welcome to buy
a license. Thank you for being a Autodesk Customer. Now please drop your
pants and bend over."
>
> /Jens
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Adam Sale
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> I totally agree Arvid. I know I will need to revisit old scenes and
projects, and this totally shoots us in the foot/ head.
> This is a completely unacceptable move on the part of AD.
> Let us keep our old licenses, AND migrate. What harm is there in keeping
the old licenses around?
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Arvid Björn
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Excuse me, but THIS IS BULLSHIT:
>
> "Please note that the right to use the Softimage license will terminate
at the end of the transition period if you are still on Subscription. You
will be transitioned to the latest release of either 3ds Max or Maya
depending on your initial choice. If you want to continue to use your
Softimage license after Feb 1, 2016 you should not renew your Subscription
contract for a period beyond that date. You will be able to continue to use
Softimage but will forfeit any future updates to either 3ds Max or Maya."
>
> I can see how offering Maya/Max might be a parting gift, but how can you
deny the continued use of Softimage after the two year transition period?
No fucking way in hell we'll just throw all of our data from almost 10
years back into the lake, we'll need the ability to open older Softimage
projects INDEFINITELY.
> Basically, there is absolutely NO way forward with Autodesk at this pont,
I have to keep access available. Rethink, respond and change this policy
ASAP, thanks.
>
>
>
> --
> Jens Lindgren
> --------------------------
> Lead Technical Director
> Magoo 3D Studios<http://www.magoo3dstudios.com/>
>
>

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