Excellent Maurice, I perches 10 000 stand alone licences, i'll be expecting the paperwork, i'll have you know my superior are pissed :P
On 5 March 2014 00:39, Eric Lampi <[email protected]> wrote: > It's the typical short sighted mindset that has ruined so many great > products. They think that they can cut all of that development and support, > it's a win win because they cannot imagine that these SoftImage people have > any other product to transition to other than Maya. So they cut costs and > add seats to Maya. > > Eric > > Freelance 3D and VFX animator > > http://vimeopro.com/mybudoinc/animation > > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Jordi Bares <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Astonishing... truly astonishing... >> >> And I wonder... what is the cost of maintaining Softimage evolving as a >> first class product... are we talking about 8 developers? a few QA and >> documentation guys and management? >> >> Are we talking about what... a little fraction of the profits may be? >> >> truly incredible. >> >> Jordi Bares >> [email protected] >> >> On 4 Mar 2014, at 23:11, Sebastien Sterling <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Interesting, so with this logic, Carbine Games who are locked into >> Softimage for at least 5 hopefully 10 years, will have to repurchase their >> entire pipeline in max or maya... >> >> Animal Logic who have 2 new Lego films green lit, will have to recreate >> everything minus the meshes... >> >> >> On 4 March 2014 22:32, Morten Bartholdy <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks for clarifying Maurice. >>> >>> >>> Morten >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Den 4. marts 2014 kl. 20:14 skrev Maurice Patel < >>> [email protected]>: >>> >>> > Yes this is the case. >>> > Unfortunately these days license agreements are rather complex. The >>> clause is there because subscription includes a certain level of support >>> which we are not going to be offering in 2 years time. Whatever choice you >>> make now will have pros and cons and these have been discussed on several >>> threads but basically boil down to: >>> > >>> > - You can keep using the license you have in perpetuity, either >>> by itself or augmented by other non-Autodesk software, a lot of which was >>> discussed elsewhere >>> > >>> > - Migrate to the Transition Bundle - this is a single license >>> that allows you to use two products (Softimage and either Maya or 3ds Max). >>> You will now be able to use both products concurrently (the license >>> functions like a Suite license). If you are on Subscription you can migrate >>> at no cost. Even if you migrate you will still have two options depending >>> on whether Maya (or 3ds Max) works for you or not: >>> > >>> > o If it is not working out for you, you can stop renewing >>> subscription - you will then still be able to use both products in >>> perpetuity (at whatever release version Maya or 3ds Max is on at the time) >>> > >>> > o If it is working for you and you renew Subscription, after two >>> years when we stop support, you will be moved to wither a Maya-only or 3ds >>> Max-only subscription plan when we stop Softimage support. >>> > >>> > o If you want to migrate but continue to access Softimage after two >>> years, we recommend that you not transition all your seats or if you do not >>> keep the Subscription current on all of them - that way you will have a few >>> licenses that you can maintain to access older projects >>> > Maurice >>> > >>> > Maurice Patel >>> > Autodesk : Tél: 514 954-7134 >>> > >>> > From: [email protected] [mailto: >>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Peter Agg >>> > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 1:47 PM >>> > To: [email protected] >>> > Subject: Re: License to END if you migrate?! >>> > >>> > I imagine this is Autodesk protecting itself legally - if they sell >>> you a product then I'm pretty sure they're obliged to provide a level of >>> support for it. >>> > Doesn't make it any less silly for us though, of course. >>> > >>> > On 4 March 2014 18:09, Kris Rivel <[email protected]<mailto: >>> [email protected]>> wrote: >>> > Ha...I read too fast the first time...now its even more confusing! So >>> if you want to continue to use it, don't renew...but doing so forfeits the >>> right to upgrade Max or Maya? That doesn't make any sense. Please tell me >>> this an error. Everyone that is a paid customer should get transitioned to >>> either one and always be able to run Softimage. I agree this needs to be >>> revised. >>> > >>> > Kris >>> > >>> > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Jens Lindgren < >>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> > My translation of it: >>> > "If you want to use Softimage after the transition period, stop paying >>> the Subscription. If you also want to continue using Max or Maya that you >>> have had the pleasure to try for free for two years, you are welcome to buy >>> a license. Thank you for being a Autodesk Customer. Now please drop your >>> pants and bend over." >>> > >>> > /Jens >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Adam Sale <[email protected]<mailto: >>> [email protected]>> wrote: >>> > I totally agree Arvid. I know I will need to revisit old scenes and >>> projects, and this totally shoots us in the foot/ head. >>> > This is a completely unacceptable move on the part of AD. >>> > Let us keep our old licenses, AND migrate. What harm is there in >>> keeping the old licenses around? >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Arvid Björn <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> > Excuse me, but THIS IS BULLSHIT: >>> > >>> > "Please note that the right to use the Softimage license will >>> terminate at the end of the transition period if you are still on >>> Subscription. You will be transitioned to the latest release of either 3ds >>> Max or Maya depending on your initial choice. If you want to continue to >>> use your Softimage license after Feb 1, 2016 you should not renew your >>> Subscription contract for a period beyond that date. You will be able to >>> continue to use Softimage but will forfeit any future updates to either 3ds >>> Max or Maya." >>> > >>> > I can see how offering Maya/Max might be a parting gift, but how can >>> you deny the continued use of Softimage after the two year transition >>> period? No fucking way in hell we'll just throw all of our data from almost >>> 10 years back into the lake, we'll need the ability to open older Softimage >>> projects INDEFINITELY. >>> > Basically, there is absolutely NO way forward with Autodesk at this >>> pont, I have to keep access available. Rethink, respond and change this >>> policy ASAP, thanks. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Jens Lindgren >>> > -------------------------- >>> > Lead Technical Director >>> > Magoo 3D Studios<http://www.magoo3dstudios.com/> >>> > >>> > >>> >> >> >> >
