Astonishing… truly astonishing… And I wonder… what is the cost of maintaining Softimage evolving as a first class product… are we talking about 8 developers? a few QA and documentation guys and management?
Are we talking about what… a little fraction of the profits may be? truly incredible. Jordi Bares [email protected] On 4 Mar 2014, at 23:11, Sebastien Sterling <[email protected]> wrote: > Interesting, so with this logic, Carbine Games who are locked into Softimage > for at least 5 hopefully 10 years, will have to repurchase their entire > pipeline in max or maya... > > Animal Logic who have 2 new Lego films green lit, will have to recreate > everything minus the meshes... > > > On 4 March 2014 22:32, Morten Bartholdy <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for clarifying Maurice. > > Morten > > > Den 4. marts 2014 kl. 20:14 skrev Maurice Patel <[email protected]>: > > > Yes this is the case. > > Unfortunately these days license agreements are rather complex. The clause > > is there because subscription includes a certain level of support which we > > are not going to be offering in 2 years time. Whatever choice you make now > > will have pros and cons and these have been discussed on several threads > > but basically boil down to: > > > > - You can keep using the license you have in perpetuity, either by > > itself or augmented by other non-Autodesk software, a lot of which was > > discussed elsewhere > > > > - Migrate to the Transition Bundle - this is a single license that > > allows you to use two products (Softimage and either Maya or 3ds Max). You > > will now be able to use both products concurrently (the license functions > > like a Suite license). If you are on Subscription you can migrate at no > > cost. Even if you migrate you will still have two options depending on > > whether Maya (or 3ds Max) works for you or not: > > > > o If it is not working out for you, you can stop renewing subscription - > > you will then still be able to use both products in perpetuity (at whatever > > release version Maya or 3ds Max is on at the time) > > > > o If it is working for you and you renew Subscription, after two years > > when we stop support, you will be moved to wither a Maya-only or 3ds > > Max-only subscription plan when we stop Softimage support. > > > > o If you want to migrate but continue to access Softimage after two > > years, we recommend that you not transition all your seats or if you do not > > keep the Subscription current on all of them - that way you will have a few > > licenses that you can maintain to access older projects > > Maurice > > > > Maurice Patel > > Autodesk : Tél: 514 954-7134 > > > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peter Agg > > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 1:47 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: License to END if you migrate?! > > > > I imagine this is Autodesk protecting itself legally - if they sell you a > > product then I'm pretty sure they're obliged to provide a level of support > > for it. > > Doesn't make it any less silly for us though, of course. > > > > On 4 March 2014 18:09, Kris Rivel > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Ha...I read too fast the first time...now its even more confusing! So if > > you want to continue to use it, don't renew...but doing so forfeits the > > right to upgrade Max or Maya? That doesn't make any sense. Please tell me > > this an error. Everyone that is a paid customer should get transitioned to > > either one and always be able to run Softimage. I agree this needs to be > > revised. > > > > Kris > > > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Jens Lindgren > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > My translation of it: > > "If you want to use Softimage after the transition period, stop paying the > > Subscription. If you also want to continue using Max or Maya that you have > > had the pleasure to try for free for two years, you are welcome to buy a > > license. Thank you for being a Autodesk Customer. Now please drop your > > pants and bend over." > > > > /Jens > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Adam Sale > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > I totally agree Arvid. I know I will need to revisit old scenes and > > projects, and this totally shoots us in the foot/ head. > > This is a completely unacceptable move on the part of AD. > > Let us keep our old licenses, AND migrate. What harm is there in keeping > > the old licenses around? > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Arvid Björn > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Excuse me, but THIS IS BULLSHIT: > > > > "Please note that the right to use the Softimage license will terminate at > > the end of the transition period if you are still on Subscription. You will > > be transitioned to the latest release of either 3ds Max or Maya depending > > on your initial choice. If you want to continue to use your Softimage > > license after Feb 1, 2016 you should not renew your Subscription contract > > for a period beyond that date. You will be able to continue to use > > Softimage but will forfeit any future updates to either 3ds Max or Maya." > > > > I can see how offering Maya/Max might be a parting gift, but how can you > > deny the continued use of Softimage after the two year transition period? > > No fucking way in hell we'll just throw all of our data from almost 10 > > years back into the lake, we'll need the ability to open older Softimage > > projects INDEFINITELY. > > Basically, there is absolutely NO way forward with Autodesk at this pont, I > > have to keep access available. Rethink, respond and change this policy > > ASAP, thanks. > > > > > > > > -- > > Jens Lindgren > > -------------------------- > > Lead Technical Director > > Magoo 3D Studios<http://www.magoo3dstudios.com/> > > > > >
