(slinks back into room)
Hi Gael:
AFAIK the node editor is not a hypershade replacement. But I agree the
disconnect in the node editor UI/hypergraph/hypershade/(UBERMENSCH?) is
a little annoying too. :)
Anyway, as far as listing all materials in the scene (since I really
hate working with the hypershade now ever since I got used to the NE),
what I do is run the following quickie script:
sel = mc.ls(typ='shadingEngine')
a = mc.select(sel, ne=True)
Which helps select all shadingEngines nodes in the scene. You can then
graph the inputs to those nodes in the node editor to instantly get your
materials listed out in the editor without having to pick them out via
the hypershade :D
BTW the node editor CAN show outMeshes to inMeshes...in display, you can
choose to display all shapes and transforms...also check that you're
graphing both inputs and outputs. And yes, again the UI icons are not
really helping much in this regard with being clear as to what their
functions actually are. :P
I've never had any issues with graphing i/o connections, though, but I
could try to help troubleshoot when I'm free if you're having problems
with specific cases, I know the NE is kind of wonky at times. I'm on
2013/2014 as well.
(slinks away)
Yours sincerely,
Siew Yi Liang
On 3/19/2014 3:20 AM, Gaël Honorez wrote:
On 19/03/2014 10:51, Ivan Vasiljevic wrote:
You should go with something more simpler for start:
Try opening few outliners as you would often have few explorer opened
in SI.
Since hypershade is passe
Is it?
I'm still using 2013, but it's almost the same in 2014 : The node
editor is far from being workable outside demos.
It's doing too much or not enough.
Ie, unless I'm missing something :
- It's doesn't list all the materials in the scene, even less only the
textures/shaders/SG (something really needed)
- Graphing what you want is like throwing a dice that doesn't have the
number you bet on.
- When it does, it graph half the scene with it.
- It doesn't show basic connections like outMesh->inMesh in any mode,
and the connection editor is still required for any task.
After 10 years, I still amazed about how Maya can't do the most basics
things possible, and have the same bugs for years.
ie. object sets stop showing content in some (not rare) occasions.
The color picker reset the color if you don't click "done" before
closing the editor (new bug from 2011).
Actually, the color picker, all by itself, has so many user interface
bugs or missing features that you feel the need to bang your head each
time you open it.
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Gaël Honorez <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
You have to open the hypershade, and graph the sphere.
Then you will get a awfully large network that is not humanely
readable.
So you will open the Node Editor, graph the sphere, and get a
nicer graph in a interface that doesn't allow to do everything
you need to do, but you will learn what to open in what case with
time.
Here you will see that the polySphere operator is still there.
Click on it, and edit the subdivision.
Why isn't that available after nCloth is applied? Nobody knows,
you don't ask these questions when using maya. Or you go crazy
very fast.
It's not the "programming DCC" because it's flexible, it's the
"programming DCC" because you have will have your shelves full of
mel scripts to do simple things very rapidly :)
On 19/03/2014 10:32, Alastair Hearsum wrote:
Folks
Here is a confession. I've never used Maya! Not really. I've
had a little poke every now and again but no more than make a
sphere and spin round it.
Now, the lack of Maya knowledge may diminish the value of my
comments in some eyes but I think that , on the contrary, it
puts me in quite a good position to appraise the software at a
certain level. Here is an example of the trouble I'm having that
may bring a smile to people's faces. But first just a couple of
more sentences before I reveal my difficulty. I like to bill
myself as the sensitive artist/animator who is technically all
fingers and thumbs, like the woman by the side of her broken
down car waiting on a big strong man to help her out. The truth
is that its not true. I do have a degree in Fine Art but I also
studied maths and physics at university and programmed
extensively in Lisp in my first job. So I'm not stupid BUT:
*I'm on my third night trying to adjust the resolution of a
sphere after I have applied n-cloth to it!*
Isn't that incredible? Its one example plucked from many
experienced by people I work with who can and have used Maya.
Its symptomatic of the all encompassing interface workflow
issues that Maya has that I think are really fundamental
problems and more important in some ways than headline large
features. Admittedly I had had a couple of glasses of wine by
that point and it was a casual , before bedtime attempt to try
something out but I had already twice asked my colleague at work
to explain what the procedure was and I followed what he was
doing at the time.
So there you have it. Is it me.........?
Alastair
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