On Thursday, May 5, 2016 16:18:08, Olivier Jeannel wrote: > What's the point of beeing right if you're alone ? Better be an idiot.
Well if you were right, you would not be alone. But indeed ignorance can be bliss. On Thursday, May 5, 2016 16:18:08, Olivier Jeannel wrote: > > Well sorry, I was a little harsh in my previous message. > I do struggle with arrays, but I like it. > Ice just opened my eyes in terms of what 3d , geometry, math behave > together. > It just kills me that people who choose to use "this" or "that" > software have an opinion without knowing nothing. > And the hardest is that in the end, I'm the one beeing wrong because > xsi just doesn't exit anymore. > What's the point of beeing right if you're alone ? Better be an idiot. > > Le 5 mai 2016 21:09, "Martin" <furik...@gmail.com > <mailto:furik...@gmail.com>> a écrit : > > Modelers that don't have an idea of what a variable or an array > is, animators who can't rig or script, that's what I call an > average user. > > Generalists with technical knowledge (including ICE) isn't your > average user in any package. Most of the designers I know are > specialists who don't use or even need ICE. > > I consider that you can't use Maya comfortably and to its > potential if you don't have a minimum knowledge of Mel or Python, > but the reality is that most Maya users can't script. > > I'd say that besides technical people, riggers or VFX specialists, > only generalists that are usually involved in vfx or rigging have > a decent knowledge of ICE. > > I don't have numbers but I'm pretty sure most SI users don't use > ICE directly. Personally I rarely use it at all. > > Most of the projects (games) I've been involved in, have been done > with SI 2011 and previous versions so ICE wasn't very useful for > modeling until recently when I finally get to use SI 2013 and 2014 > and that's because I also view some technical parts of our > projects and use ICE in some of our tools. > > And that's how it is in the game industry here in Japan. Sadly, it > is very probably that SI 2015 won't be used at all. And most SI > users won't learn ICE before learning basic Maya, or Max, or Modo, > or any other tool that isn't EOL. > > Martin > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 2016/05/05, at 13:59, Pierre Schiller > <activemotionpictu...@gmail.com > <mailto:activemotionpictu...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> >> By average you mean "with more than 5+ years" on softimage, or >> UNDER -5 years? Because ICE was long due before that time. >> :) >> >> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 11:45 PM, Martin <furik...@gmail.com >> <mailto:furik...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> But honestly, the Modo feature looks cool. I'd like to have >> that in Maya. >> >> And to be fair, your average SI user doesn't know what an >> array is, just like the average Maya, Modo, Max, etc. user. >> >> Martin >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 2016/05/05, at 1:18, Pierre Schiller >> <activemotionpictu...@gmail.com >> <mailto:activemotionpictu...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>> >>> Good day. I came across this: >>> https://vimeo.com/162972719 >>> >>> That´s a >>> "Wait-a-minute-we-had-that-feature-for-years-before-in-softimage" >>> moment. >>> >>> Had Softimage been exposed in such way in the past, will >>> those features still be jaw opening to this generation >>> users? Don´t think so. >>> >>> This is how much AD kept SI word silent, so now other >>> packages will show "future". >>> >>> All SI users know procedural modeling has been going on for >>> years on ICE. >>> >>> Dang. Another stab on the heart....IMHO. >>> >>> Cheers? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Portfolio 2013 <http://be.net/3dcinetv> >>> Cinema & TV production >>> Video Reel <https://vimeo.com/3dcinetv/reel2012> >>> ------ >>> Softimage Mailing List. >>> To unsubscribe, send a mail to >>> softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com >>> <mailto:softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com> with >>> "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >> >> >> ------ >> Softimage Mailing List. >> To unsubscribe, send a mail to >> softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com >> <mailto:softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com> with >> "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Portfolio 2013 <http://be.net/3dcinetv> >> Cinema & TV production >> Video Reel <https://vimeo.com/3dcinetv/reel2012> >> ------ >> Softimage Mailing List. >> To unsubscribe, send a mail to >> softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com >> <mailto:softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com> with >> "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. > > > ------ > Softimage Mailing List. > To unsubscribe, send a mail to > softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com > <mailto:softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com> with > "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. > > > > ------ > Softimage Mailing List. > To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com > with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. ------ Softimage Mailing List. To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm.
