Hey Adam, Thanks for the tips on Xsens
I did some further tests and I was blown away by the results...basically I'm using the same smartphone I'm using as a VR device ( S7 Edge ) as a router wifi using 4g, and the latency between the real movement and the VR movement has been reduced by a lot! It's like being connected with the USB cable and the feedback is truly amazing! So instead of carrying around my tower pc, the router and so on currently I can bring just the laptop and that's it! I'm quite sure that, in order to demonstrate the lag, a First Person Shooter demo can be done just for playtesting, but what comes next will be the real challenge for me ( NDA at the moment, but I'll probably share something during the next couple of weeks ) Perception Neuron does not support multi-level and the setup is a bit time consuming, but overall I'm very satisfied with the results...also considering that this is a side project I'm developing and I was able to have a wireless experience without using expensive tech or optical tracking. Nicolas 2016-08-05 23:17 GMT+02:00 Adam Sale <adamfs...@gmail.com>: > Hi again Nicolas. I haven't had the chance to test on a fast desktop yet, > was running the suit off of a Surface Pro 3 for an overseas job I just had. > > There was some slight delay in dealing with MVN studio and Motionbuilder > realtime. Again, I want to test with the vive on a higher end machine to be > able to truly comment. I don't think the latency was as bad as what I saw > in your video, bit it was still there. I will be back at work in the next > couple of weeks and do some more tests then. Will post back in this thread. > > One thing I like with the XSens, is how quick it is to setup. Doesn't lose > calibration easily, unless there is significant magnetic interference. > There is a debug mode where you can find the 'zones' where the tracking > breaks down. > > The multi level feature is one of the best features of the XSens suit. > I've been able to do climb three level homes with the laptop in the > basement, and still get exceptional tracking. Using the terrain around us > is such a big plus with these kinds of suits. > > Adam > > On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:35 PM, Enter Reality <3dv...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Adam! >> >> Based on your tests with the Xsens suit, is the streaming of the mocap >> data almost realtime or there is a delay similar to the one you see in my >> video? >> I know that they work using similar IMU-based sensors, but since the >> price difference between them is alsmot 1 to 10 I was thinking to do the >> upgrade in a couple of months, but if I have the same delay I'll stick with >> the one I own :) >> >> 2016-08-04 23:49 GMT+02:00 Adam Sale <adamfs...@gmail.com>: >> >>> That's very cool, Nicolas. We've been building up our hardware assets >>> for just this kind of thing. I'm excited to test out Xsens and the Vive >>> with Unity or Unreal. Thanks for sharing! >>> >>> Adam >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Fabricio Chamon <xsiml...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> ok thanks a lot for the deep explanation Nicolas.. All I need is a >>>> quick way to get acceptable mocap results to feed into my own crowd >>>> workflow. >From your description it seems that after some trial and error >>>> one is able to get it going and produce some decent animations. For the >>>> price maybe it's worth a try, >>>> thanks again. >>>> >>>> 2016-08-04 11:19 GMT-03:00 Enter Reality <3dv...@gmail.com>: >>>> >>>>> Hi Fabricio, >>>>> >>>>> If you take a look at the forum there are quite a lot of people >>>>> complaining about lots of stuff, but it's also true that with 1500$ you >>>>> won't get a super-professional product, even if I can say that the money I >>>>> spent were well spent ( I backed the kickstarter campaign and got 2 of >>>>> them >>>>> for a total of 1000$ ) >>>>> >>>>> In general the suit works pretty good and I have been working with it >>>>> since January...in order to speed up the recording and to put the >>>>> animation >>>>> onto a character I created my own pipeline which right now allows me to >>>>> record and process the animations in very short time. >>>>> >>>>> The time consuming part is at the beginning when you're start testing >>>>> the entire setup ( lots of things can go wrong and will probably go wrong >>>>> ) >>>>> The calibration itself ( if followed properly ) gives good results, >>>>> but the actual "virtual puppet" which is rapresented isn't a 1:1 copy of >>>>> you, since you can choose only the height of the character, nothing else. >>>>> Since it's a IMU based mocap suit there are issues when you try to >>>>> clap or you two-hand a sword for example, but this is something which can >>>>> be easily adjusted later inside Maya/MoBu. >>>>> >>>>> You can use two methods to record animation: via USB or via Wifi >>>>> USB works every time and it takes 1 second to be connected, while Wifi >>>>> connection is ( most of the time ) completely random, so sometimes you're >>>>> connected in 10 seconds while sometimes it takes up to 5 minutes...the >>>>> developers themself are not sure why this is happening, which is great :D >>>>> >>>>> Once you're connected the only thing you need to take care of is to be >>>>> away from magnetic source ( mobile phones, pc, and so on ). >>>>> The software used to record the animation allows for some tweaking ( >>>>> hips fixed in place, smoothing and so on ) and in general it works quite >>>>> good, also considering that there are dedicated plugins for UE4, Unity, >>>>> Motion Builder and iClone. >>>>> Since January the sensors got magnetized last week, but that happended >>>>> because I constantly worked with my mobile phone in my hands or very close >>>>> to them, so I'm experiencing some drifting while recording...to >>>>> demagnetize >>>>> you have to re-calibrate the sensors, which is a bit time consuming, but >>>>> in >>>>> 20 minutes you're done. >>>>> >>>>> Overall I think that 1500$ for this suit are worthed if you don't need >>>>> a super-high mocap suit, this is a very good solution for hobbyst but also >>>>> for those who wants to create their own animation rather then paying >>>>> someone else and probably giving away the amount of 4 suits. >>>>> The tech issues are there, but it also depends on your setup. >>>>> With my tower pc the wifi streaming works great, with my laptop the >>>>> suit is not recognized, so if I need to record long animations in a large >>>>> space I need to move my tower pc ( and everything else ) outside, which is >>>>> a bit annoying but doable. >>>>> >>>>> Nicolas >>>>> >>>>> 2016-08-04 15:48 GMT+02:00 Fabricio Chamon <xsiml...@gmail.com>: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey Nicolas, very nice! I'm particularly interested in the mocap >>>>>> suit. Does it work well? How is the setup/calibration time? Any >>>>>> pros/cons? >>>>>> I can see in the perception neuron website that you have to be >>>>>> extremely carefull with your calibration or the system really will not >>>>>> work >>>>>> good enough. How is your experience with that? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for sharing, nice experiment! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Em quinta-feira, 4 de agosto de 2016, Enter Reality <3dv...@gmail.com> >>>>>> escreveu: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yep, I couldn't find a good enough sword so I put that in :D >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Possibly during the weekend I'll updated the scene with a >>>>>>> multi-level environment ( which helps a lot with the ridiculous >>>>>>> restriction >>>>>>> on mobile ) and maybe turn it into a game, but I doubt it ( single >>>>>>> person >>>>>>> development with zero programming knowledge ), but I'm curious to see >>>>>>> how >>>>>>> other people will use this setup >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2016-08-04 13:00 GMT+02:00 Sebastien Sterling < >>>>>>> sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is that Artoria's sword :P >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 4 August 2016 at 12:39, Olivier Jeannel <facialdel...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Super ! Please keep us posted, very inspirating ! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Enter Reality <3dv...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi guys, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I just want to share one of the projects I'm developing using the >>>>>>>>>> GearVR and a mocap suit. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In short I'm walking inside a VR environment using the mocap suit >>>>>>>>>> to walk around and interact with the environment >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> GearVR Test Demo <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4IOA9VjxKc> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm using a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge and the Noitom Perception >>>>>>>>>> Neuron Suit, and all the data is sent to the smartphone via Wifi...a >>>>>>>>>> bit >>>>>>>>>> laggy, but considenring the setup I'm quite satisfied by the results. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've shared the entire project on the UE4 forum >>>>>>>>>> <https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?119165-Perception-Neuron-Dark-Souls(ish)-Test-Demo-Full-Body-VR-(-Downloadable-project!-)> >>>>>>>>>> if someone want to test the scene >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The video shows just a very simple environment, but future >>>>>>>>>> updates will include more content and features. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm not planning to focus on games using this setup, but I guess >>>>>>>>>> that this is a good way to show everyone what I'm doing. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Best Regards >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nicolas Esposito >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------ >>>>>>>>>> Softimage Mailing List. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.aut >>>>>>>>>> odesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to >>>>>>>>>> confirm. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------ >>>>>>>>> Softimage Mailing List. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.aut >>>>>>>>> odesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------ >>>>>>>> Softimage Mailing List. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.aut >>>>>>>> odesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> ------ >>>>>> Softimage Mailing List. >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.aut >>>>>> odesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------ >>>>> Softimage Mailing List. >>>>> To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com >>>>> with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------ >>>> Softimage Mailing List. >>>> To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com >>>> with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------ >>> Softimage Mailing List. >>> To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com >>> with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >>> >> >> >> ------ >> Softimage Mailing List. >> To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com >> with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >> > > > ------ > Softimage Mailing List. > To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com > with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >
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