Hey guys, I did some test yestarday and I'm blown away by the results!
Latency from the suit heavily reduced and enhanced experience, this suit is really surprising me with its results :D Enjoy the videos Lightroom Test Scene <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC2SZv3Z7ZE&feature=gp-n-y&google_comment_id=z121zljgiqyqzpf0d22tznzbjwnicpy4104> Dark Souls Style Optimized Scene <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Frd88EXVQEo> Cheers Nicolas 2016-08-06 9:58 GMT+02:00 Enter Reality <[email protected]>: > Hey Adam, > > Thanks for the tips on Xsens > > I did some further tests and I was blown away by the results...basically > I'm using the same smartphone I'm using as a VR device ( S7 Edge ) as a > router wifi using 4g, and the latency between the real movement and the VR > movement has been reduced by a lot! It's like being connected with the USB > cable and the feedback is truly amazing! > > So instead of carrying around my tower pc, the router and so on currently > I can bring just the laptop and that's it! > > I'm quite sure that, in order to demonstrate the lag, a First Person > Shooter demo can be done just for playtesting, but what comes next will be > the real challenge for me ( NDA at the moment, but I'll probably share > something during the next couple of weeks ) > > Perception Neuron does not support multi-level and the setup is a bit time > consuming, but overall I'm very satisfied with the results...also > considering that this is a side project I'm developing and I was able to > have a wireless experience without using expensive tech or optical tracking. > > Nicolas > > 2016-08-05 23:17 GMT+02:00 Adam Sale <[email protected]>: > >> Hi again Nicolas. I haven't had the chance to test on a fast desktop yet, >> was running the suit off of a Surface Pro 3 for an overseas job I just had. >> >> There was some slight delay in dealing with MVN studio and Motionbuilder >> realtime. Again, I want to test with the vive on a higher end machine to be >> able to truly comment. I don't think the latency was as bad as what I saw >> in your video, bit it was still there. I will be back at work in the next >> couple of weeks and do some more tests then. Will post back in this thread. >> >> One thing I like with the XSens, is how quick it is to setup. Doesn't >> lose calibration easily, unless there is significant magnetic interference. >> There is a debug mode where you can find the 'zones' where the tracking >> breaks down. >> >> The multi level feature is one of the best features of the XSens suit. >> I've been able to do climb three level homes with the laptop in the >> basement, and still get exceptional tracking. Using the terrain around us >> is such a big plus with these kinds of suits. >> >> Adam >> >> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:35 PM, Enter Reality <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Adam! >>> >>> Based on your tests with the Xsens suit, is the streaming of the mocap >>> data almost realtime or there is a delay similar to the one you see in my >>> video? >>> I know that they work using similar IMU-based sensors, but since the >>> price difference between them is alsmot 1 to 10 I was thinking to do the >>> upgrade in a couple of months, but if I have the same delay I'll stick with >>> the one I own :) >>> >>> 2016-08-04 23:49 GMT+02:00 Adam Sale <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> That's very cool, Nicolas. We've been building up our hardware assets >>>> for just this kind of thing. I'm excited to test out Xsens and the Vive >>>> with Unity or Unreal. Thanks for sharing! >>>> >>>> Adam >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Fabricio Chamon <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> ok thanks a lot for the deep explanation Nicolas.. All I need is a >>>>> quick way to get acceptable mocap results to feed into my own crowd >>>>> workflow. >From your description it seems that after some trial and error >>>>> one is able to get it going and produce some decent animations. For the >>>>> price maybe it's worth a try, >>>>> thanks again. >>>>> >>>>> 2016-08-04 11:19 GMT-03:00 Enter Reality <[email protected]>: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Fabricio, >>>>>> >>>>>> If you take a look at the forum there are quite a lot of people >>>>>> complaining about lots of stuff, but it's also true that with 1500$ you >>>>>> won't get a super-professional product, even if I can say that the money >>>>>> I >>>>>> spent were well spent ( I backed the kickstarter campaign and got 2 of >>>>>> them >>>>>> for a total of 1000$ ) >>>>>> >>>>>> In general the suit works pretty good and I have been working with it >>>>>> since January...in order to speed up the recording and to put the >>>>>> animation >>>>>> onto a character I created my own pipeline which right now allows me to >>>>>> record and process the animations in very short time. >>>>>> >>>>>> The time consuming part is at the beginning when you're start testing >>>>>> the entire setup ( lots of things can go wrong and will probably go >>>>>> wrong ) >>>>>> The calibration itself ( if followed properly ) gives good results, >>>>>> but the actual "virtual puppet" which is rapresented isn't a 1:1 copy of >>>>>> you, since you can choose only the height of the character, nothing else. >>>>>> Since it's a IMU based mocap suit there are issues when you try to >>>>>> clap or you two-hand a sword for example, but this is something which can >>>>>> be easily adjusted later inside Maya/MoBu. >>>>>> >>>>>> You can use two methods to record animation: via USB or via Wifi >>>>>> USB works every time and it takes 1 second to be connected, while >>>>>> Wifi connection is ( most of the time ) completely random, so sometimes >>>>>> you're connected in 10 seconds while sometimes it takes up to 5 >>>>>> minutes...the developers themself are not sure why this is happening, >>>>>> which >>>>>> is great :D >>>>>> >>>>>> Once you're connected the only thing you need to take care of is to >>>>>> be away from magnetic source ( mobile phones, pc, and so on ). >>>>>> The software used to record the animation allows for some tweaking ( >>>>>> hips fixed in place, smoothing and so on ) and in general it works quite >>>>>> good, also considering that there are dedicated plugins for UE4, Unity, >>>>>> Motion Builder and iClone. >>>>>> Since January the sensors got magnetized last week, but that >>>>>> happended because I constantly worked with my mobile phone in my hands or >>>>>> very close to them, so I'm experiencing some drifting while >>>>>> recording...to >>>>>> demagnetize you have to re-calibrate the sensors, which is a bit time >>>>>> consuming, but in 20 minutes you're done. >>>>>> >>>>>> Overall I think that 1500$ for this suit are worthed if you don't >>>>>> need a super-high mocap suit, this is a very good solution for hobbyst >>>>>> but >>>>>> also for those who wants to create their own animation rather then paying >>>>>> someone else and probably giving away the amount of 4 suits. >>>>>> The tech issues are there, but it also depends on your setup. >>>>>> With my tower pc the wifi streaming works great, with my laptop the >>>>>> suit is not recognized, so if I need to record long animations in a large >>>>>> space I need to move my tower pc ( and everything else ) outside, which >>>>>> is >>>>>> a bit annoying but doable. >>>>>> >>>>>> Nicolas >>>>>> >>>>>> 2016-08-04 15:48 GMT+02:00 Fabricio Chamon <[email protected]>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey Nicolas, very nice! I'm particularly interested in the mocap >>>>>>> suit. Does it work well? How is the setup/calibration time? Any >>>>>>> pros/cons? >>>>>>> I can see in the perception neuron website that you have to be >>>>>>> extremely carefull with your calibration or the system really will not >>>>>>> work >>>>>>> good enough. How is your experience with that? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for sharing, nice experiment! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Em quinta-feira, 4 de agosto de 2016, Enter Reality < >>>>>>> [email protected]> escreveu: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yep, I couldn't find a good enough sword so I put that in :D >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Possibly during the weekend I'll updated the scene with a >>>>>>>> multi-level environment ( which helps a lot with the ridiculous >>>>>>>> restriction >>>>>>>> on mobile ) and maybe turn it into a game, but I doubt it ( single >>>>>>>> person >>>>>>>> development with zero programming knowledge ), but I'm curious to see >>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>> other people will use this setup >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2016-08-04 13:00 GMT+02:00 Sebastien Sterling < >>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is that Artoria's sword :P >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 4 August 2016 at 12:39, Olivier Jeannel <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Super ! Please keep us posted, very inspirating ! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Enter Reality <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I just want to share one of the projects I'm developing using >>>>>>>>>>> the GearVR and a mocap suit. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In short I'm walking inside a VR environment using the mocap >>>>>>>>>>> suit to walk around and interact with the environment >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> GearVR Test Demo <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4IOA9VjxKc> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm using a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge and the Noitom Perception >>>>>>>>>>> Neuron Suit, and all the data is sent to the smartphone via >>>>>>>>>>> Wifi...a bit >>>>>>>>>>> laggy, but considenring the setup I'm quite satisfied by the >>>>>>>>>>> results. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I've shared the entire project on the UE4 forum >>>>>>>>>>> <https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?119165-Perception-Neuron-Dark-Souls(ish)-Test-Demo-Full-Body-VR-(-Downloadable-project!-)> >>>>>>>>>>> if someone want to test the scene >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The video shows just a very simple environment, but future >>>>>>>>>>> updates will include more content and features. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm not planning to focus on games using this setup, but I guess >>>>>>>>>>> that this is a good way to show everyone what I'm doing. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Nicolas Esposito >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ------ >>>>>>>>>>> Softimage Mailing List. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send a mail to [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> odesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to >>>>>>>>>>> confirm. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------ >>>>>>>>>> Softimage Mailing List. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send a mail to [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> odesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to >>>>>>>>>> confirm. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------ >>>>>>>>> Softimage Mailing List. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send a mail to [email protected] >>>>>>>>> odesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------ >>>>>>> Softimage Mailing List. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send a mail to [email protected] >>>>>>> odesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------ >>>>>> Softimage Mailing List. >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send a mail to [email protected] >>>>>> odesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------ >>>>> Softimage Mailing List. >>>>> To unsubscribe, send a mail to [email protected] >>>>> with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------ >>>> Softimage Mailing List. >>>> To unsubscribe, send a mail to [email protected] >>>> with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------ >>> Softimage Mailing List. >>> To unsubscribe, send a mail to [email protected] >>> with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >>> >> >> >> ------ >> Softimage Mailing List. >> To unsubscribe, send a mail to [email protected] >> with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >> > >
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