If they were maintenance subscriptions then yes you should have been given 
perpetual licenses – the challenge might be reactivation as that is not 
guaranteed. But maintenance licenses should be perpetual ones.

Maurice Patel
Tél:  514 954-7134
Cell: 514 242-6549

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of xabian dreiD
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 10:02 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Maya with Softimage 2016 - license questions

hey guys,

i just received my serials for Softimage 2013 & 2014! thanks a lot for your 
support maurice!!

one last question:
if i would cancel my maintenance subsciption for that so called Maya & 
Softimage Bundle 2016 in the future, then i will stuck at the maya version that 
are available until my subscription ends AND on softimage 2016 (2015 R2) and 
can use them perpetual, right?

best regards -xabian

2016-11-01 19:01 GMT+01:00 Martin Chatterjee 
<martin.chatterjee.li...@googlemail.com<mailto:martin.chatterjee.li...@googlemail.com>>:
Thanks Maurice, that's great to hear.

Cheers, Martin

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On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Maurice Patel 
<maurice.pa...@autodesk.com<mailto:maurice.pa...@autodesk.com>> wrote:
I have an update.
The support person is incorrect. There is an exception for Softimage. Our 
backend systems were  modified recently and the exception was not migrated to 
the new system creating the problem. Since the system no longer reflects the 
exception support is just giving you a standard response.  We are trying to 
figure out a way to fix this at the moment. There is a workaround path 
apparently I am also trying to get details on that. Will keep you posted
maurice

Maurice Patel
Tél:  514 954-7134<tel:514%20954-7134>
Cell: 514 242-6549<tel:514%20242-6549>

From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>]
 On Behalf Of xabian dreiD
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 9:30 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
Subject: Re: Maya with Softimage 2016 - license questions

hey martin,

thanks for sharing your experience! i bought the maya softimage bundle mainly 
because of softimage and the maintenance plan because i thought its nice mayabe 
to migrate to mayalater  and also to have the possibility to use previous 
versions of softimage.. but after another contact with autodesk support it 
seems they making really no difference between maya and softimage versions:

"The software you're trying to activate remains not eligible for use.
In regards to our upgrade policy, as newer versions of the software are 
released, the older ones become not eligible, using your example, by next year 
you would have the right to the newest version of Maya with Softimage, and 
indeed, the 2014 would not be available for use as it is now.
I can't be certain of what happened to the other user you mentioned, perhaps if 
you manage to get in touch with him he can explain exactly how he managed to 
activate the software."


i wonder what will happen if i cancel my subscription now? will i hold maya 
2017 and also softimage 2016 (2015R2)? my reseller said these where perpetual 
licenses i can use forever!

i hope also maurice can maybe help to get my 2013 activated and clarify these 
questions!?

2016-11-01 10:04 GMT+01:00 Martin Yara 
<furik...@gmail.com<mailto:furik...@gmail.com><mailto:furik...@gmail.com<mailto:furik...@gmail.com>>>:
AFAIK, and that's what I could understand from my experience with SI 2013, it 
means 3 versions previous to their latest series, being that 2017 and soon to 
be 2018. It doesn't matter what is the latest Softimage version.

So in 2019 (I think 2015R2 would still be in the 2015 group)  you won't be able 
to use Softimage at all if you haven't activated your licenses yet, not without 
your reseller doing some magic for you at least.

I hope Maurice can do something for you.

btw, If you haven't activated your 2014 license, do it now.

Martin

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 5:56 PM, xabian dreiD 
<xabia...@gmail.com<mailto:xabia...@gmail.com><mailto:xabia...@gmail.com<mailto:xabia...@gmail.com>>>
 wrote:
Hmmm, that is interesting... but also strange, because the subscription 
contract says its allowed to use the last 3 versions.
The funny thing is the last Softimage version  in my Autodesk Account is 2016, 
which is 2015 R2 in reality :)
[Inline-Bild 1]
So 3 versions back would be 2013 and my account also offers me the possibility 
to download 2013 and clearly says: "Your contract includes access to this 
products"

[Inline-Bild 2]

But the support says i'm now on Maya with Softimage 2017 and 3 version back 
will be 2014. But this is only for Maya in my opinion because there is 
certainly no Softimage 2017. So next year we also would not be allowed to use 
2014 and one year later not 2015 and one more not even 2016 (which is 2015 R2) 
???

2016-11-01 2:37 GMT+01:00 Martin 
<furik...@gmail.com<mailto:furik...@gmail.com><mailto:furik...@gmail.com<mailto:furik...@gmail.com>>>:
I had a similar problem with SI2013 in May this year.
It took a few days but my reseller managed to get me those licenses after the 3 
years period but explained me that normally, you need to activate your licenses 
before the 3 years expiration.

Martin
Sent from my iPhone

2016/11/01 1:50、Maurice Patel 
<maurice.pa...@autodesk.com<mailto:maurice.pa...@autodesk.com><mailto:maurice.pa...@autodesk.com<mailto:maurice.pa...@autodesk.com>>>
 のメッセージ:

> Hi, I am not sure what is going on and will look into this at our end 
> (Autodesk) too.
> maurice
>
> Maurice Patel
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> Cell: 514 242-6549<tel:514%20242-6549><tel:514%20242-6549>
>
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>  On Behalf Of xabian dreiD
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> Subject: Maya with Softimage 2016 - license questions
>
> hi gang,
>
> i bought maya with softimage 2016 bundle last year and i'm on subsbcription, 
> which allows me to use the last 3 versions. now i need softimage 2013 for an 
> older project and i could download it through my account but autodesk support 
> won't give me a serial because they saying i'm now on maya with softimage 
> 2017 and they just can give me softimage 2014 because this would be 3 
> versions back!?  this must be a halloween joke or not!?  if this would be 
> true so what will happen in year 2020? then i can not use any softimage or 
> what? my reseller said maya and softimage 2016 is perpetual for both maya and 
> softimage!. what will happen if i cancel my subscription? i originally bought 
> that package for a perpetual softimage and did subscription because my 
> reseller said then i can upgrade maya, but softimage will be the same 
> perpetual license.
>
> i tried already to reach out autodesk support to get further information, but 
> the support acts like an autoresponder.. also my reseller could't help for 
> now, they trying to talk to autodesk. i hope somebody here can bring some 
> light into the darkness?!
>
> thx! -xabian
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