Alain, The agenda for the interim meeting contradicts what was said during the IETF81 v6ops (thanks to the recording (.mp3 url) and corresponding transcript below), so I would appreciate any clarity you could provide.
With such a narrow-defined agenda, which doesn't allow discussion, analysis, and comparison of various stateless 4v6 transition options as the 1st step, many folks may just boycott and discount whatever is decided in the interim meeting. This is not only unproductive, but also unreasonable for those who have decided to attend the interim meeting. ############ Audio recording from v6ops ################### http://www.ietf.org/audio/ietf81/ietf81-205abc-20110728-1256-pm.mp3 Transcript: Alain: This is done in Softwire. We are planning to organize an interim meeting in September, in some part of the world, to actually go through all the technical solutions that have been put forward and analyze them and do what we did at the beginning of Softwires. Pretty intensive interim meeting, locked in a room, and figure out what we need. Fred: So, Alain, we are finally going to have the discussion. Alain: We are actually going to make technical progress on this - more than just discussing. Jari: suggested doing everything in one group (implying a new WG). Alain: there are no more groups. We will just do it now. ############ On the other hand, the agenda for the interim meeting is the following: ############ Interim meeting Agenda ############## The interim meeting will focus on 'stateless' solutions in general and 4rd in particular. Expected outcome includes progress on 4rd spec, packet format, where to put IPv4 bits, port indications, DHCP option, tunneling vs translation, coexistence with other technologies, etc... ############ I am afraid that the interim meeting agenda would end up allowing more than one WGs work on 4v6 transition options. Not the best intent in favor of larger internet community. Cheers, Rajiv > -----Original Message----- > From: Rajiv Asati (rajiva) > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:04 AM > To: 'Alain Durand' > Cc: Yong Cui; [email protected]; liziye; [email protected]; Ralph Droms > (rdroms) > Subject: RE: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting in Beijing > > It doesn't, IMO. In fact, I beg to say that it is unfair mention 'tunneling vs > translating' as a blanket statement, since we have known all along that a sane > 4v6 solution would likely involve translating (44), no matter what. > > Moreover, it is reasonable to call out all stateless 4v6 options, not just a > particular solution. > > Cheers, > Rajiv > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alain Durand [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 9:44 AM > > To: Rajiv Asati (rajiva) > > Cc: Yong Cui; [email protected]; liziye; [email protected]; Ralph > Droms > > (rdroms) > > Subject: Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting in Beijing > > > > We mentioned 'tunneling vs translating'. This should cover it. > > > > Alain. > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On Aug 19, 2011, at 8:16 AM, "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > Yong, > > > > > > Why is dIVI not included In the discussion ? > > > > > > Could you please clarify? > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Rajiv > > > > > > Sent from Phone.... > > > > > > On Aug 19, 2011, at 8:10 AM, "Yong Cui" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> Hi folks, > > >> > > >> We, softwire wg chairs, in agreement with our ADs, are announcing > > >> an interim meeting in Beijing on September 26 & 27. The date has > > >> been chosen adjacent to the BBF meeting in Shangai to minimize > > >> travel and visa issues. > > >> > > >> The interim meeting will focus on 'stateless' solutions in general > > >> and 4rd in particular. Expected outcome includes progress on 4rd > > >> spec, packet format, where to put IPv4 bits, port indications, DHCP > > >> option, tunneling vs translation, coexistence with other > > >> technologies, etc... > > >> > > >> --------------------------------------- > > >> Meeting Location & recommended hotels _______________________________________________ Softwires mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires
