I hope the agenda I just published will clear things up. - Alain
On Sep 7, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Rajiv Asati (rajiva) wrote: > Alain, > > The agenda for the interim meeting contradicts what was said during the > IETF81 v6ops (thanks to the recording (.mp3 url) and corresponding > transcript below), so I would appreciate any clarity you could provide. > > With such a narrow-defined agenda, which doesn't allow discussion, > analysis, and comparison of various stateless 4v6 transition options as > the 1st step, many folks may just boycott and discount whatever is > decided in the interim meeting. This is not only unproductive, but also > unreasonable for those who have decided to attend the interim meeting. > > > ############ Audio recording from v6ops ################### > http://www.ietf.org/audio/ietf81/ietf81-205abc-20110728-1256-pm.mp3 > > Transcript: > > Alain: This is done in Softwire. We are planning to organize an interim > meeting in September, in some part of the world, to actually go through > all the technical solutions that have been put forward and analyze them > and do what we did at the beginning of Softwires. Pretty intensive > interim meeting, locked in a room, and figure out what we need. > > Fred: So, Alain, we are finally going to have the discussion. > > Alain: We are actually going to make technical progress on this - more > than just discussing. > > Jari: suggested doing everything in one group (implying a new WG). > > Alain: there are no more groups. We will just do it now. > ############ > > > On the other hand, the agenda for the interim meeting is the following: > > ############ Interim meeting Agenda ############## > The interim meeting will focus on 'stateless' solutions in general and > 4rd in particular. Expected outcome includes progress on 4rd spec, > packet format, where to put IPv4 bits, port indications, DHCP option, > tunneling vs translation, coexistence with other technologies, etc... > ############ > > > I am afraid that the interim meeting agenda would end up allowing more > than one WGs work on 4v6 transition options. Not the best intent in > favor of larger internet community. > > Cheers, > Rajiv > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rajiv Asati (rajiva) >> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:04 AM >> To: 'Alain Durand' >> Cc: Yong Cui; softwires@ietf.org; liziye; iesg-secret...@ietf.org; > Ralph Droms >> (rdroms) >> Subject: RE: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting in Beijing >> >> It doesn't, IMO. In fact, I beg to say that it is unfair mention > 'tunneling vs >> translating' as a blanket statement, since we have known all along > that a sane >> 4v6 solution would likely involve translating (44), no matter what. >> >> Moreover, it is reasonable to call out all stateless 4v6 options, not > just a >> particular solution. >> >> Cheers, >> Rajiv >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Alain Durand [mailto:adur...@juniper.net] >>> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 9:44 AM >>> To: Rajiv Asati (rajiva) >>> Cc: Yong Cui; softwires@ietf.org; liziye; iesg-secret...@ietf.org; > Ralph >> Droms >>> (rdroms) >>> Subject: Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting in Beijing >>> >>> We mentioned 'tunneling vs translating'. This should cover it. >>> >>> Alain. >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On Aug 19, 2011, at 8:16 AM, "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" > <raj...@cisco.com> >> wrote: >>> >>>> Yong, >>>> >>>> Why is dIVI not included In the discussion ? >>>> >>>> Could you please clarify? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Rajiv >>>> >>>> Sent from Phone.... >>>> >>>> On Aug 19, 2011, at 8:10 AM, "Yong Cui" <cuiy...@tsinghua.edu.cn> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi folks, >>>>> >>>>> We, softwire wg chairs, in agreement with our ADs, are announcing >>>>> an interim meeting in Beijing on September 26 & 27. The date has >>>>> been chosen adjacent to the BBF meeting in Shangai to minimize >>>>> travel and visa issues. >>>>> >>>>> The interim meeting will focus on 'stateless' solutions in > general >>>>> and 4rd in particular. Expected outcome includes progress on 4rd >>>>> spec, packet format, where to put IPv4 bits, port indications, > DHCP >>>>> option, tunneling vs translation, coexistence with other >>>>> technologies, etc... >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------- >>>>> Meeting Location & recommended hotels > _______________________________________________ Softwires mailing list Softwires@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires
