Hi, Med,

Thanks for this question.

1. As we know, all fragments of a packet from a given off-domain host to a 
given in-domain IPv4 address usually enter the domain via the same BR. 
(Otherwise packet disordering would badly disrupt TCP).

2. When fragments of a packet enter a domain via distinct BRs (e.g. due to some 
change in routing or load balancing information bases), the algorithm of 
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-despres-softwire-4rd-u-05#sect
ion-4.5.2. (3) is such that the packet will be lost:
- A fragments going via a BR that didn't receive the first fragment is 
discarded by this BR. This results from the last column of the decision table.
- Reassembly in the destination becomes therefore impossible.
OK?


Cheers,
RD
 
Le 2012-03-22 à 08:51, <mohamed.boucad...@orange.com> 
<mohamed.boucad...@orange.com> a écrit :

> Dear Gang,
> 
> Thanks, but I failed to find the text describing how to handle two fragments 
> received by two distinct BRs.
> 
> Could you please point me to that text in case I miss it?
> 
> Cheers,
> Med
> 
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : GangChen [mailto:phdg...@gmail.com] 
>> Envoyé : jeudi 22 mars 2012 08:33
>> À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/NAD/TIP
>> Cc : Washam Fan; Softwires
>> Objet : Re: [Softwires] Fragmentation in sdnat-02
>> 
>> 2012/3/21, mohamed.boucad...@orange.com <mohamed.boucad...@orange.com>:
>>> Dear Washam,
>>> 
>>> This is an issue common to all stateless solutions, 
>> including deterministic
>>> NAT with (anaycast) IPv4 address pool.
>>> 
>>> FWIW, we recorded this issue here:
>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dec-stateless-4v6-04#section-5.15.2.
>>> 
>>> As a solution to this issue, we proposed to implement the
>>> fragmentation-related function in one single node: any 
>> received fragment is
>>> redirected to a dedicated node which will be responsible for 
>> reassembly or
>>> forward the fragment to the appropriate CPE. This node must dedicate
>>> resources to handle out of order fragments.
>> 
>> FYI, I see another approach doing that with a entry table +
>> redirection action, similarly like
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-despres-softwire-4rd-u-05#sect
>> ion-4.5.2.
>> 
>> BRs
>> 
>> Gang
>> 
>>> Saying that, I can not quantify the severity of this issue in all
>>> operational networks.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Med
>>> 
>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>> De : softwires-boun...@ietf.org
>>>> [mailto:softwires-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de Washam Fan
>>>> Envoyé : mercredi 21 mars 2012 07:25
>>>> À : Softwires
>>>> Objet : [Softwires] Fragmentation in sdnat-02
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Authors,
>>>> 
>>>> In section 3.2, it states IPv4 address pool should be anycasted. This
>>>> introduces a risk where different incoming fragments go to different
>>>> AFTRs. Because one IPv4 address is shared between multiple
>>>> subscribers, reassemly is needed on AFTRs when receiving 
>> fragments. If
>>>> different fragments go thru different  AFTRs, the reassmely process
>>>> would fail and incur DoS.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> washam
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