On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Jacni Qin <[email protected]> wrote:
> Re-,
>
>
> On 6/26/2012 Tuesday 2:50 AM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Jacni Qin<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Behcet, all,
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, June 22, 2012 2:23:34 AM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Folks,
>>>>
>>>> We have published revised version of our draft on multicast extensions
>>>> to DS-Lite at
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-sarikaya-softwire-dslitemulticast-01.txt
>>>>
>>> It's been discussed on the list and in the 81st meeting, and concluded
>>> quite
>>> clearly by the WG why this is abandoned.
>>> It tunnels the IGMP packets upwards, replicates the multicast traffic
>>> "per
>>> tunnel", opposite to the property of multicast technology. And these are
>>> problems we're trying to solve.
>>>
>>  draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-multicast-02 has nothing to do with
>> DS-Lite and therefore it is not a DS-Lite multicast extensions
>> document as the charter requires.
>> OTOH, draft-sarikaya-softwire-dslitemulticast-01.txt integrates
>> multicast into DS-Lite tunnel.
>>
>> It is not against multicast technology.
>
> In this way, the efficiency is lost. If operators put the AFTR box deeply in
> the network, far from the end users, as you process the singling messages
> and replicate of traffic per tunnel, the network and the box will crash
> because of the huge burden.
>

That's a big IF. Not everybody has to do it the same way.

The solution in draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-multicast-02
builds itself something without considering what DS-Lite is doing.
As I told you before, DS-Lite unicast is a tunneling technology. If
you don't like it it is not DS-Lite multicast to fix this.
How many times this should be reminded to you?


>
>>> There is no necessity to initiate that kind of discussion once again.
>>>
>> I did not start this discussion. Please check the list.
>
>
> Again please see above, or check the archive and the offlist messages where
> we've explained it to you in detail.

I also had explained to you that the chairs wanted the two drafts
merged in detail.



>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Behcet
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