On Sat, 01 May 2004 10:34:23 -0400, you wrote:
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>>I'm sorry, but you're prone to making complaints, but failed to give >details. This whole controversy would have been a lot shorter if you'd >pointed out exactly what you were talking about at the start. As a result, >you and I have wasted a lot of our time arguing over something that isn't >the problem. Next time, don't waste your time or mine. Tell us what your >exact problem is.
1) I'm reasonably certain that you've confused me with the original poster. Want to check the from names next time?
Fair enough. I did confuse your identity. Even so, you did waste my time. You lodged a complaint on a thread about dialup blocking based on dynamic IP RBLs without identifying yourself as a business class DSL customer.
You are not a dialup user with no ISP provided SMTP relay. You are NOT a dialup user at all. And you're not in any of the RBLs that are the subject of the thread.
I had to do some research to find that part out. This part did waste my time, because you mis-characterized yourself. I could have just said "That sucks, but what does that have to do with this?" and been done and over. Instead I write a long email only to find you're in a business block and had to delete most of it. Thanks a lot.
2) It so happens that I know of 2 so-called ISPs who have my DSL line blocked - AOL and roadrunner - which is why I think the idea of blacklisting based on IP address with no other cause is stupid. Wait until someone sends spam before calling them a spammer, is my point.
Yeah, but you're not likely blacklisted by IP, or by a RBL... you're likely being blacklisted by reverse DNS lookup. Not to say this is reasonable, but it's quite likely to be true.
I also don't think it unreasonable to block IPs that are known home-user dynamic-ip allocation dialup blocks, provided they are verified to be such and not business blocks or anything but home user nodes. NJABL-Dialup and SORBS-Dynamic are the lists this thread is talking about, and are the block measure I was arguing in support of. And these measures don't affect you at all, because these services know that business class DSL blocks exist.
The point of my reply does still stand. Your complaint has nothing to do with dialup RBLS, dialup nodes, SpamAssassin or any other part of this thread.
You've got a beef with ISPs that do MTA layer blocking of machines that RDNS as ".dsl.". I agree that's stupid, so do most SA users, but it's not what I was arguing for and you're reply in the middle of it is distinctly misleading and rude.
I sympathize with your problem, but I take particular offense at you characterizing my statements as supporting people blocking you. I don't support people blocking you. I don't support MTA layer blocking at all, and I only do such things by hand in response to severe problems.
I do support using SpamAssassin to assign points to mail directly delivered from dynamic allocation IPs.
