From: "Michael W.Cocke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Sun, 2 May 2004 13:53:07 -0700, you wrote:
>
> >From: "Michael W.Cocke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> On Sat, 1 May 2004 18:59:48 -0700, you wrote:
> >>
> >> >From: "Matt Kettler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >
> >> >> At 06:12 PM 5/1/04 -0700, Jeff Chan wrote:
> >> >> >LOL! IP service without DNS. There's a novel "unbundling" concept
> >> >> >that probably no one else considered (since it's such a bad
> >> >> >idea).
> >> >>
> >> >> That's not such a bad thing.. Let's face it.. For my work, the ISP
has
> >DNS
> >> >> service, but I don't use it. I've already got two DNS servers on
site
> >> >> anyway. On the business network side, you really don't need your ISP
to
> >> >> provide you anything but a route. (and preferably reverse DNS
> >> >customization
> >> >> or delegation for the IP(s) routed.)
> >> >
> >> >Do you have reverse lookup setup and configured? Does it report the
> >> >correct thing when using the root name servers? I presume you also
> >> >have an MX record setup. Does it report the correct thing when using
> >> >the root name servers? If not AT&T is screwing you not the BLs.
> >> >
> >> >{^_^}
> >>
> >> They don't offer that either. Basically, on the plan I'm on, they hand
> >> me a wire with an IP adress and say "have a nice day".
> >>
> >> Mike-
> >
> >Welcome to bait and switch, Mike. Did the ISP tack on a heavy early
> >termination clause in your contract? If not find somebody more honest
> >and get your service from them. What you have is an account that seems
> >to be ideal for spammers, minimum cost and minimum service. They get
> >the account, spew, and abandon it immediately. Even a year's charges
> >on the account are a mere cost of doing business for them.
> >
> >{^_^}
>
> Believe it or not, I got exactly what I want, except that Roadrunner
> and AOL have me blacklisted for no good reason. Try to find a static
> IP DSL with good uptime on a micro-budget in the swamps of north NJ
> (even worse, I'm EXACTLY 3k feet from the CO)... 8-)>
>
> I'm very happy - I actually PREFER doing it all myself. I've got 3
> domains running, web and mail. I run leafnode against usenet.com for
> my wife and I. If I feel like fooling around with some new program I
> don't have to worry about pissing off my ISP. No moaning about how
> much bandwidth I use (or don't). My spam blocking setup beats anything
> I've seen generaly available (from an ISP) amavisd, SA with all kinds
> of custom rules, 2 different virus checkers. I get maybe a spam a
> day. Excellent uptime on a reasonable budget. If only I could get AOL
> and RR to stop blacklisting me for no particular reason, I'd be happy.
> I'm mostly happy anyway, but there are a few folks I'd like to be able
> to email. <shrug>
Perhaps you wanted the wrong thing. You SHOULD want something with a
proper reverse DNS listing. Then you can send email. Not having a reverse
listing to your domain with the actual reverse listing including "dialup"
indicators is a remarkably effective indicator for spam. Of course, so is
an att reverse lookup to begin with. They seem to be inherently spammer
friendly. I don't see that you have anything to complain about. You wanted
the wrong thing. And it's likely to get worse rather than better for you.
{o.o}
