I am fully aware of the difference between standard SA and SARE (although I realize my post may have left that open for some confusion - my apologies).

I use and appreciate SARE - the well-developed rule-sets have saved our company an awful lot of time sorting through e-mail!

When a new admin pops up on this list asking for rules, SARE is the first place we send them - wholeheartedly and unreservedly.

What concerns me is that a hoax ruleset has some serious drawbacks (which have already been discussed). It would be a ruleset entirely unrelated to spam, but rather focused entirely on a user's personal mail. False positives would be enough of a concern, but even accurate positives have their problems!

SARE has the right to include whatever rulesets its creators choose, and I would never dream of telling anyone what they could or could not include in their ruleset list. However, I would hope that as a community-oriented resource (which does, in fact, rock) SARE would be responsible about how such a ruleset was provided.

A newbie with AWL, Bayes auto-learning, and a hoax ruleset will very soon see his or her e-mail system degenerate into a massive mess.

I think my main point is this... treating hoaxes as spam is a bad idea. An ideal add-on or improvement to SpamAssassin would be to have some way to deal with unwanted personal e-mails - but spam is bulk and hoaxes are personal. Those two don't mix well.

</soapbox> :)

Evan II


-----Original Message----- From: Chris Santerre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 2:47 PM To: 'E. Falk'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Scoring Hoaxes

I have to make this perfectly clear, and this is not directed at you E.Falk.


SARE rulesets are in no way shape or form part of the distribution of SA. They are not standard by that means. They are not required to be used with spamassassin. No one has to use SARE rulesets in any way shape or form with spamassasin to catch spam. SARE rulesets do not come with a blessing, seal of approval, or smiley sticker from the developers of SA. SARE rules do not go thru the same testing procedure as those rules included in an official SA distro. There is no official connection between SARE and SpamAssassin distros.

SARE is just SARE

With that all said for reasons that are my own,......SARE ROCKS!

I like the wiki idea. If we get one started, SARE can test it against our
growing collections of corpa(Corpi, corpora, corcrappymcmuffin, whatever I
don't care!) against the rules we come up with for hoaxes. exit0.us sounds
good to me.

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