The _none directories are caused by mail attempting to be delivered to
addresses with an empty "From" field.  You can see this in your log with
something like:

Jul 28 12:47:06 limelight spamdyke[21357]: DENIED_GRAYLISTED from: (unknown)
to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] origin_ip: 64.183.66.155 origin_rdns: tedperez.com
auth: (unknown)

In pre-version 4, this causes a file called "_none" to be created in the
directory xzhgmf0lkb, which is a sub-directory of domain.net.  In the new
version 4, I believe, this process has changed, and it sounds like there's
possibly a bug causing the continual sub-directory creation.  Great timing
to find it right as Sam leaves town, huh!  :-)

I haven't tried it, but maybe try blacklisting the address "_none" for that
domain (All domains) and see if that blacklists the email, which is likely
spam anyway, instead of graylisting it... 

Michael J. Colvin
NorCal Internet Services
www.norcalisp.com

 



 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Alanis
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 1:25 PM
> To: spamdyke users
> Subject: Re: [spamdyke-users] super long "_none" directory 
> nesting on 4.0.1
> 
> Thanks again Nightduke,
> 
> I'll give wipe a try for sure.
> 
> As far as restarting Spamdyke, I'm not inclined to do so 
> since there is no reason to believe that it won't start this 
> whole nested _none thing all over again.  I'm curious if this 
> is a bug in the software or if there is something in my 
> config or elsewhere I should change to avoid this.  Remember, 
> these thousands of nested _none directories are popping up 
> for many sites, not just the one I included in the 
> recipient-blacklist-entry line.  The only pattern I could see 
> is that the domains which got it the worst are the ones which 
> normally get the most spam (with lots of the spam having 
> nothing in the "from" field).
> 
> ~ Bob Alanis
> 
> 
> 
> nightduke wrote:
> > Wipe seems to delete faster...
> > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=804
> >
> > 2008/7/28 nightduke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >   
> >> Well stop the mail server...
> >>
> >> create a new graylist
> >> add domains
> >> rename old greylistold
> >> create a cron job to remove greylistold this midnight i 
> will take hours...
> >> Try secure delete seems to delete faster...support 
> recursive directorys...
> >>
> >> 
> http://pnboy.pinguix.com/my_packages/zenwalk/secure_delete/3.1/secure
> >> _delete-3.1-i486-54.1.tgz
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Nightduke
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2008/7/28 Bob Alanis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>     
> >>> Thanks Nightduke,
> >>>
> >>> I can certainly put that domain into a 
> recipient-blacklist-file.  I 
> >>> don't think that will address the real issue of all those 
> nested directories.
> >>> I've turned off Spamdyke for nwo and have been trying to delete 
> >>> those nested _none directories for a whole day.  Running "rm -rf 
> >>> /var/qmail/spamdyke/greylist" for 12 hours still didn't 
> get rid of 
> >>> all of them.  I've found one instance of over 3000 _none 
> directories 
> >>> nested inside each other, and there are likely several instances 
> >>> like that (and some with possibly more _none directories).  This 
> >>> issue is happening for tons of domains, not just the one 
> I listed in the recipient-blacklist-entry line.
> >>>
> >>> Anyone have any ideas about the nested _none problem?
> >>>
> >>> ~ Bob Alanis
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> nightduke wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Can you add the domains to a blacklisted file
> >>>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>
> >>> Don't put the domain there, i think will be better to put the 
> >>> domains in a text file.
> >>>
> >>> I hope this helps.
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>>
> >>> Nightduke
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2008/7/27 Bob Alanis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hello folks,
> >>>
> >>> I've been using Spamdyke for about a week now and I'm 
> loving it, but 
> >>> I'm running into some problems on our server.  I'm 
> running Spamdyke 
> >>> 4.0.1 on a Plesk 8.2.0 server (which runs Fedora Core 4) and was 
> >>> able to install and get Spamdyke running just fine.  The 
> problem is 
> >>> that our server is experiencing some super high loads and 
> they seem 
> >>> to be related to Spamdyke.  More specifically it seems to 
> be related 
> >>> to the fact that in my greylisting folder 
> >>> (/var/qmail/spamdyke/greylist/) there are hundreds of 
> folders called 
> >>> "_none" all nested within eachother.  Here's an example 
> of what I'm talking about (with our client's domain name removed)...
> >>>
> >>> 
> /var/qmail/spamdyke/greylist/DOMAINREMOVEDFORPRIVACY.COM/ceceliamora
> >>> ledewitt/_none/_none/_none/_none/_none/_none/_none
> >>>
> >>> That's a very short example, there are tons of instances where 
> >>> /_none/_none/_none/_none/ goes on for over 1000 times 
> (highest I've 
> >>> found so far was 1,412 _none folders nested in a row).
> >>>
> >>> This was causing our nightly backup software to freak out 
> as it was 
> >>> having trouble copying such long directories.  I managed 
> to get it 
> >>> to ignore my greylist directory during the nightly backups, but 
> >>> today we had a server crash (well, high load causing it to not 
> >>> respond).  After the server rebooted, I noticed this when 
> I typed dmesg...
> >>>
> >>> spamdyke[5315]: segfault at 0000000000000000 rip 0000003517773e56 
> >>> rsp
> >>> 00007fff11129a28 error 4
> >>> spamdyke[9267]: segfault at ffffffff95c1e5e8 rip 00000035177740b2 
> >>> rsp
> >>> 00007fff95c1a518 error 4
> >>>
> >>> My greylist directory has 479 domain names listed (we 
> don't actually 
> >>> have that many sites on our server, more like 300 plus 
> many domain 
> >>> aliases), and many of them have this _none/_none/_none problem.
> >>>
> >>> When I run a config test the only error I get is...
> >>>
> >>> ERROR: Missing qmail-smtpd command
> >>>
> >>> But this wasn't keeping spamdyke from working all week.
> >>>
> >>> My /etc/spamdyke.conf file is...
> >>>
> >>> --------------------
> >>>
> >>> log-level=info
> >>> tls-level=smtp
> >>> tls-certificate-file=/var/qmail/control/servercert.pem
> >>> smtp-auth-level=observe
> >>> local-domains-file=/var/qmail/control/rcpthosts
> >>> max-recipients=100
> >>> idle-timeout-secs=60
> >>> recipient-whitelist-file=/var/qmail/spamdyke/whitelist_recipient
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> graylist-level=always
> >>> graylist-dir=/var/qmail/spamdyke/greylist
> >>> graylist-exception-ip-file=/var/qmail/spamdyke/never_greylist
> >>> graylist-min-secs=180
> >>> graylist-max-secs=604800
> >>> sender-blacklist-file=/var/qmail/spamdyke/blacklist_senders
> >>> recipient-blacklist-file=/var/qmail/spamdyke/blacklist_recipients
> >>> ip-blacklist-file=/var/qmail/spamdyke/blacklist_ip
> >>> sender-whitelist-file=/var/qmail/spamdyke/whitelist_sender
> >>> ip-whitelist-file=/var/qmail/spamdyke/whitelist_ip
> >>> greeting-delay-secs=5
> >>> reject-empty-rdns
> >>> dns-blacklist-entry=zen.spamhaus.org
> >>> dns-blacklist-entry=dnsbl.ahbl.org
> >>> dns-blacklist-entry=bl.spamcop.net
> >>> reject-missing-sender-mx
> >>> local-domains-file=/var/qmail/control/rcpthosts
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------
> >>>
> >>> The [EMAIL PROTECTED] line is due to a 
> >>> client being mailbombed at the moment.  I've added their 
> domain to 
> >>> this line temporarily.
> >>>
> >>> Any suggestions?  If there is any more info I can provide 
> I would be 
> >>> happy to.  Is this normal spamdyke behavior?
> >>>
> >>> ~ Bob Alanis
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >>> [email protected]
> >>> http://www.spamdyke.org/mailman/listinfo/spamdyke-users
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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