> Sam left town?  Oh boy. :)

Maybe it is time for us to try a patch?

Pablo.

2008/7/28 Bob Alanis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Sam left town?  Oh boy. :)
>
> Michael, that "_none" blacklist idea sounds like it might do the trick.
> Once I have my nested _none directories deleted I'll give that a whirl.
> I hate being without spamdyke after using it for a week (the spam on our
> server dropped to a teeeensy amount with spamdyke on the job) so it's
> worth a shot.
>
> I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one experiencing this (though at the
> same time I'm sorry others are having trouble).
>
> ~ Bob Alanis
>
>
> Michael Colvin wrote:
>> The _none directories are caused by mail attempting to be delivered to
>> addresses with an empty "From" field.  You can see this in your log with
>> something like:
>>
>> Jul 28 12:47:06 limelight spamdyke[21357]: DENIED_GRAYLISTED from: (unknown)
>> to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] origin_ip: 64.183.66.155 origin_rdns: tedperez.com
>> auth: (unknown)
>>
>> In pre-version 4, this causes a file called "_none" to be created in the
>> directory xzhgmf0lkb, which is a sub-directory of domain.net.  In the new
>> version 4, I believe, this process has changed, and it sounds like there's
>> possibly a bug causing the continual sub-directory creation.  Great timing
>> to find it right as Sam leaves town, huh!  :-)
>>
>> I haven't tried it, but maybe try blacklisting the address "_none" for that
>> domain (All domains) and see if that blacklists the email, which is likely
>> spam anyway, instead of graylisting it...
>>
>> Michael J. Colvin
>> NorCal Internet Services
>> www.norcalisp.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Alanis
>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 1:25 PM
>>> To: spamdyke users
>>> Subject: Re: [spamdyke-users] super long "_none" directory
>>> nesting on 4.0.1
>>>
>>> Thanks again Nightduke,
>>>
>>> I'll give wipe a try for sure.
>>>
>>> As far as restarting Spamdyke, I'm not inclined to do so
>>> since there is no reason to believe that it won't start this
>>> whole nested _none thing all over again.  I'm curious if this
>>> is a bug in the software or if there is something in my
>>> config or elsewhere I should change to avoid this.  Remember,
>>> these thousands of nested _none directories are popping up
>>> for many sites, not just the one I included in the
>>> recipient-blacklist-entry line.  The only pattern I could see
>>> is that the domains which got it the worst are the ones which
>>> normally get the most spam (with lots of the spam having
>>> nothing in the "from" field).
>>>
>>> ~ Bob Alanis
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> nightduke wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wipe seems to delete faster...
>>>> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=804
>>>>
>>>> 2008/7/28 nightduke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Well stop the mail server...
>>>>>
>>>>> create a new graylist
>>>>> add domains
>>>>> rename old greylistold
>>>>> create a cron job to remove greylistold this midnight i
>>>>>
>>> will take hours...
>>>
>>>>> Try secure delete seems to delete faster...support
>>>>>
>>> recursive directorys...
>>>
>>>>>
>>> http://pnboy.pinguix.com/my_packages/zenwalk/secure_delete/3.1/secure
>>>
>>>>> _delete-3.1-i486-54.1.tgz
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Nightduke
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2008/7/28 Bob Alanis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Nightduke,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can certainly put that domain into a
>>>>>>
>>> recipient-blacklist-file.  I
>>>
>>>>>> don't think that will address the real issue of all those
>>>>>>
>>> nested directories.
>>>
>>>>>> I've turned off Spamdyke for nwo and have been trying to delete
>>>>>> those nested _none directories for a whole day.  Running "rm -rf
>>>>>> /var/qmail/spamdyke/greylist" for 12 hours still didn't
>>>>>>
>>> get rid of
>>>
>>>>>> all of them.  I've found one instance of over 3000 _none
>>>>>>
>>> directories
>>>
>>>>>> nested inside each other, and there are likely several instances
>>>>>> like that (and some with possibly more _none directories).  This
>>>>>> issue is happening for tons of domains, not just the one
>>>>>>
>>> I listed in the recipient-blacklist-entry line.
>>>
>>>>>> Anyone have any ideas about the nested _none problem?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~ Bob Alanis
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> nightduke wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you add the domains to a blacklisted file
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't put the domain there, i think will be better to put the
>>>>>> domains in a text file.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope this helps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nightduke
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2008/7/27 Bob Alanis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been using Spamdyke for about a week now and I'm
>>>>>>
>>> loving it, but
>>>
>>>>>> I'm running into some problems on our server.  I'm
>>>>>>
>>> running Spamdyke
>>>
>>>>>> 4.0.1 on a Plesk 8.2.0 server (which runs Fedora Core 4) and was
>>>>>> able to install and get Spamdyke running just fine.  The
>>>>>>
>>> problem is
>>>
>>>>>> that our server is experiencing some super high loads and
>>>>>>
>>> they seem
>>>
>>>>>> to be related to Spamdyke.  More specifically it seems to
>>>>>>
>>> be related
>>>
>>>>>> to the fact that in my greylisting folder
>>>>>> (/var/qmail/spamdyke/greylist/) there are hundreds of
>>>>>>
>>> folders called
>>>
>>>>>> "_none" all nested within eachother.  Here's an example
>>>>>>
>>> of what I'm talking about (with our client's domain name removed)...
>>>
>>>>>>
>>> /var/qmail/spamdyke/greylist/DOMAINREMOVEDFORPRIVACY.COM/ceceliamora
>>>
>>>>>> ledewitt/_none/_none/_none/_none/_none/_none/_none
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's a very short example, there are tons of instances where
>>>>>> /_none/_none/_none/_none/ goes on for over 1000 times
>>>>>>
>>> (highest I've
>>>
>>>>>> found so far was 1,412 _none folders nested in a row).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This was causing our nightly backup software to freak out
>>>>>>
>>> as it was
>>>
>>>>>> having trouble copying such long directories.  I managed
>>>>>>
>>> to get it
>>>
>>>>>> to ignore my greylist directory during the nightly backups, but
>>>>>> today we had a server crash (well, high load causing it to not
>>>>>> respond).  After the server rebooted, I noticed this when
>>>>>>
>>> I typed dmesg...
>>>
>>>>>> spamdyke[5315]: segfault at 0000000000000000 rip 0000003517773e56
>>>>>> rsp
>>>>>> 00007fff11129a28 error 4
>>>>>> spamdyke[9267]: segfault at ffffffff95c1e5e8 rip 00000035177740b2
>>>>>> rsp
>>>>>> 00007fff95c1a518 error 4
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My greylist directory has 479 domain names listed (we
>>>>>>
>>> don't actually
>>>
>>>>>> have that many sites on our server, more like 300 plus
>>>>>>
>>> many domain
>>>
>>>>>> aliases), and many of them have this _none/_none/_none problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I run a config test the only error I get is...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ERROR: Missing qmail-smtpd command
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But this wasn't keeping spamdyke from working all week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My /etc/spamdyke.conf file is...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> log-level=info
>>>>>> tls-level=smtp
>>>>>> tls-certificate-file=/var/qmail/control/servercert.pem
>>>>>> smtp-auth-level=observe
>>>>>> local-domains-file=/var/qmail/control/rcpthosts
>>>>>> max-recipients=100
>>>>>> idle-timeout-secs=60
>>>>>> recipient-whitelist-file=/var/qmail/spamdyke/whitelist_recipient
>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> graylist-level=always
>>>>>> graylist-dir=/var/qmail/spamdyke/greylist
>>>>>> graylist-exception-ip-file=/var/qmail/spamdyke/never_greylist
>>>>>> graylist-min-secs=180
>>>>>> graylist-max-secs=604800
>>>>>> sender-blacklist-file=/var/qmail/spamdyke/blacklist_senders
>>>>>> recipient-blacklist-file=/var/qmail/spamdyke/blacklist_recipients
>>>>>> ip-blacklist-file=/var/qmail/spamdyke/blacklist_ip
>>>>>> sender-whitelist-file=/var/qmail/spamdyke/whitelist_sender
>>>>>> ip-whitelist-file=/var/qmail/spamdyke/whitelist_ip
>>>>>> greeting-delay-secs=5
>>>>>> reject-empty-rdns
>>>>>> dns-blacklist-entry=zen.spamhaus.org
>>>>>> dns-blacklist-entry=dnsbl.ahbl.org
>>>>>> dns-blacklist-entry=bl.spamcop.net
>>>>>> reject-missing-sender-mx
>>>>>> local-domains-file=/var/qmail/control/rcpthosts
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The [EMAIL PROTECTED] line is due to a
>>>>>> client being mailbombed at the moment.  I've added their
>>>>>>
>>> domain to
>>>
>>>>>> this line temporarily.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any suggestions?  If there is any more info I can provide
>>>>>>
>>> I would be
>>>
>>>>>> happy to.  Is this normal spamdyke behavior?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~ Bob Alanis
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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