Sam left town?  Oh boy. :)

Michael, that "_none" blacklist idea sounds like it might do the trick.  
Once I have my nested _none directories deleted I'll give that a whirl.  
I hate being without spamdyke after using it for a week (the spam on our 
server dropped to a teeeensy amount with spamdyke on the job) so it's 
worth a shot.

I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one experiencing this (though at the 
same time I'm sorry others are having trouble).

~ Bob Alanis


Michael Colvin wrote:
> The _none directories are caused by mail attempting to be delivered to
> addresses with an empty "From" field.  You can see this in your log with
> something like:
>
> Jul 28 12:47:06 limelight spamdyke[21357]: DENIED_GRAYLISTED from: (unknown)
> to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] origin_ip: 64.183.66.155 origin_rdns: tedperez.com
> auth: (unknown)
>
> In pre-version 4, this causes a file called "_none" to be created in the
> directory xzhgmf0lkb, which is a sub-directory of domain.net.  In the new
> version 4, I believe, this process has changed, and it sounds like there's
> possibly a bug causing the continual sub-directory creation.  Great timing
> to find it right as Sam leaves town, huh!  :-)
>
> I haven't tried it, but maybe try blacklisting the address "_none" for that
> domain (All domains) and see if that blacklists the email, which is likely
> spam anyway, instead of graylisting it... 
>
> Michael J. Colvin
> NorCal Internet Services
> www.norcalisp.com
>
>  
>
>
>
>  
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Alanis
>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 1:25 PM
>> To: spamdyke users
>> Subject: Re: [spamdyke-users] super long "_none" directory 
>> nesting on 4.0.1
>>
>> Thanks again Nightduke,
>>
>> I'll give wipe a try for sure.
>>
>> As far as restarting Spamdyke, I'm not inclined to do so 
>> since there is no reason to believe that it won't start this 
>> whole nested _none thing all over again.  I'm curious if this 
>> is a bug in the software or if there is something in my 
>> config or elsewhere I should change to avoid this.  Remember, 
>> these thousands of nested _none directories are popping up 
>> for many sites, not just the one I included in the 
>> recipient-blacklist-entry line.  The only pattern I could see 
>> is that the domains which got it the worst are the ones which 
>> normally get the most spam (with lots of the spam having 
>> nothing in the "from" field).
>>
>> ~ Bob Alanis
>>
>>
>>
>> nightduke wrote:
>>     
>>> Wipe seems to delete faster...
>>> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=804
>>>
>>> 2008/7/28 nightduke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Well stop the mail server...
>>>>
>>>> create a new graylist
>>>> add domains
>>>> rename old greylistold
>>>> create a cron job to remove greylistold this midnight i 
>>>>         
>> will take hours...
>>     
>>>> Try secure delete seems to delete faster...support 
>>>>         
>> recursive directorys...
>>     
>>>>         
>> http://pnboy.pinguix.com/my_packages/zenwalk/secure_delete/3.1/secure
>>     
>>>> _delete-3.1-i486-54.1.tgz
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Nightduke
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2008/7/28 Bob Alanis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> Thanks Nightduke,
>>>>>
>>>>> I can certainly put that domain into a 
>>>>>           
>> recipient-blacklist-file.  I 
>>     
>>>>> don't think that will address the real issue of all those 
>>>>>           
>> nested directories.
>>     
>>>>> I've turned off Spamdyke for nwo and have been trying to delete 
>>>>> those nested _none directories for a whole day.  Running "rm -rf 
>>>>> /var/qmail/spamdyke/greylist" for 12 hours still didn't 
>>>>>           
>> get rid of 
>>     
>>>>> all of them.  I've found one instance of over 3000 _none 
>>>>>           
>> directories 
>>     
>>>>> nested inside each other, and there are likely several instances 
>>>>> like that (and some with possibly more _none directories).  This 
>>>>> issue is happening for tons of domains, not just the one 
>>>>>           
>> I listed in the recipient-blacklist-entry line.
>>     
>>>>> Anyone have any ideas about the nested _none problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> ~ Bob Alanis
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> nightduke wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you add the domains to a blacklisted file
>>>>>
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't put the domain there, i think will be better to put the 
>>>>> domains in a text file.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope this helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Nightduke
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2008/7/27 Bob Alanis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been using Spamdyke for about a week now and I'm 
>>>>>           
>> loving it, but 
>>     
>>>>> I'm running into some problems on our server.  I'm 
>>>>>           
>> running Spamdyke 
>>     
>>>>> 4.0.1 on a Plesk 8.2.0 server (which runs Fedora Core 4) and was 
>>>>> able to install and get Spamdyke running just fine.  The 
>>>>>           
>> problem is 
>>     
>>>>> that our server is experiencing some super high loads and 
>>>>>           
>> they seem 
>>     
>>>>> to be related to Spamdyke.  More specifically it seems to 
>>>>>           
>> be related 
>>     
>>>>> to the fact that in my greylisting folder 
>>>>> (/var/qmail/spamdyke/greylist/) there are hundreds of 
>>>>>           
>> folders called 
>>     
>>>>> "_none" all nested within eachother.  Here's an example 
>>>>>           
>> of what I'm talking about (with our client's domain name removed)...
>>     
>>>>>           
>> /var/qmail/spamdyke/greylist/DOMAINREMOVEDFORPRIVACY.COM/ceceliamora
>>     
>>>>> ledewitt/_none/_none/_none/_none/_none/_none/_none
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a very short example, there are tons of instances where 
>>>>> /_none/_none/_none/_none/ goes on for over 1000 times 
>>>>>           
>> (highest I've 
>>     
>>>>> found so far was 1,412 _none folders nested in a row).
>>>>>
>>>>> This was causing our nightly backup software to freak out 
>>>>>           
>> as it was 
>>     
>>>>> having trouble copying such long directories.  I managed 
>>>>>           
>> to get it 
>>     
>>>>> to ignore my greylist directory during the nightly backups, but 
>>>>> today we had a server crash (well, high load causing it to not 
>>>>> respond).  After the server rebooted, I noticed this when 
>>>>>           
>> I typed dmesg...
>>     
>>>>> spamdyke[5315]: segfault at 0000000000000000 rip 0000003517773e56 
>>>>> rsp
>>>>> 00007fff11129a28 error 4
>>>>> spamdyke[9267]: segfault at ffffffff95c1e5e8 rip 00000035177740b2 
>>>>> rsp
>>>>> 00007fff95c1a518 error 4
>>>>>
>>>>> My greylist directory has 479 domain names listed (we 
>>>>>           
>> don't actually 
>>     
>>>>> have that many sites on our server, more like 300 plus 
>>>>>           
>> many domain 
>>     
>>>>> aliases), and many of them have this _none/_none/_none problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I run a config test the only error I get is...
>>>>>
>>>>> ERROR: Missing qmail-smtpd command
>>>>>
>>>>> But this wasn't keeping spamdyke from working all week.
>>>>>
>>>>> My /etc/spamdyke.conf file is...
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> log-level=info
>>>>> tls-level=smtp
>>>>> tls-certificate-file=/var/qmail/control/servercert.pem
>>>>> smtp-auth-level=observe
>>>>> local-domains-file=/var/qmail/control/rcpthosts
>>>>> max-recipients=100
>>>>> idle-timeout-secs=60
>>>>> recipient-whitelist-file=/var/qmail/spamdyke/whitelist_recipient
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> graylist-level=always
>>>>> graylist-dir=/var/qmail/spamdyke/greylist
>>>>> graylist-exception-ip-file=/var/qmail/spamdyke/never_greylist
>>>>> graylist-min-secs=180
>>>>> graylist-max-secs=604800
>>>>> sender-blacklist-file=/var/qmail/spamdyke/blacklist_senders
>>>>> recipient-blacklist-file=/var/qmail/spamdyke/blacklist_recipients
>>>>> ip-blacklist-file=/var/qmail/spamdyke/blacklist_ip
>>>>> sender-whitelist-file=/var/qmail/spamdyke/whitelist_sender
>>>>> ip-whitelist-file=/var/qmail/spamdyke/whitelist_ip
>>>>> greeting-delay-secs=5
>>>>> reject-empty-rdns
>>>>> dns-blacklist-entry=zen.spamhaus.org
>>>>> dns-blacklist-entry=dnsbl.ahbl.org
>>>>> dns-blacklist-entry=bl.spamcop.net
>>>>> reject-missing-sender-mx
>>>>> local-domains-file=/var/qmail/control/rcpthosts
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> The [EMAIL PROTECTED] line is due to a 
>>>>> client being mailbombed at the moment.  I've added their 
>>>>>           
>> domain to 
>>     
>>>>> this line temporarily.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions?  If there is any more info I can provide 
>>>>>           
>> I would be 
>>     
>>>>> happy to.  Is this normal spamdyke behavior?
>>>>>
>>>>> ~ Bob Alanis
>>>>>
>>>>>
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