I was referring to this data:

http://tools.proteomecenter.org/wiki/index.php?title=TPP_Tutorial_v2

However, this is not high res MS/MS either.  This would be a good starting
point.  The decoys and targets don't have to separate by score alone,
PeptideProphet should be able to model the plots you show in either case.

Cheers,
-David


On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Dave Trudgian <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> Am happy to generate some pepXMLs from the tutorial data, but assuming you
> mean the stuff at:
>
> ftp://ftp.peptideatlas.org/pub/PeptideAtlas/Repository/TPP_Demo2009/
>
> ... I'm not sure that's the best to work with for Morpheus. It's CID
> Ion-trap MS/MS, which is not Morpheus' target. Morpheus doesn't work as
> well as other algorithms on low-res MS/MS so I'm not sure if anyone would
> want to use it like that.
>
> I grabbed two of the result sets from the Coon lab site - Yeast analysis
> with FT HCD or IT CID. The distributions of Morpheus scores are very
> different. The CID data doesn't even look like target and decoy matches are
> separable, so I think high-res MS/MS is a must. See attached.
>
> DT
>
>
> On Thursday, February 6, 2014 3:44:08 PM UTC-6, David Shteynberg wrote:
>
>> I was dabbling in this, but running into some issues with morpheus
>> slowing my machine to a point where I was unable to do any other work so I
>> moved to another project.  However, I am certainly still interested in
>> this, but I know that pepXML coming out of morpheus may need some work.  If
>> you'd be willing to generate some pepXML's from the tutorial data and work
>> with me to correct the pepXML issues I should be able to model the results
>> quite quickly with PeptideProphet.  Please let me know if that sounds good
>> to you.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Eric Deutsch <[email protected]
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Dave, at ISB we are not planning this, so please go ahead and let us
>>> know how it goes!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:spctools...@
>>> googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Dave Trudgian
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 06, 2014 12:02 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>
>>> *Subject:* [spctools-discuss] Re: support for Morpheus search algorithm
>>> in TPP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Craig, just wondering if you or anyone else is working on this? If not I
>>> was thinking I would have a go at putting in a Morpheus model for
>>> PeptideProphet towards the end of next week.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dave Trudgian
>>>
>>> On Saturday, November 30, 2013 4:37:30 PM UTC-6, Craig Wenger wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there a mechanism for adding support for a new search algorithm to
>>> the various TPP tools? A few users have requested TPP compatibility for the
>>> Morpheus <http://morpheus-ms.sourceforge.net/> search algorithm. It
>>> already outputs pepXML.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Craig
>>>
>>>
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