Awesome. Look forward to trying it out.

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David Trudgian Ph.D.


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From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on 
behalf of David Shteynberg [[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 2:22 PM
To: spctools-discuss
Subject: Re: [spctools-discuss] Re: support for Morpheus search algorithm in TPP

I was able to make a first stab attempt at it and I was successful after minor 
modification to the way spectrum_names are encoded in spectrum_query tags in 
the morpheus pepXML files.  After running a simple sed to replace the names 
with something that wouldn't overlap with anoth file when combined by using the 
each run's basename I was able to generate results.


My PeptideProphet processed analysis for these two searches can be downloaded 
here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/f5r8j5yj2p2r3b8/morpheus_interact.tgz


Here are my sed commands, but I hope this could be fixed within morpheus.

 sed -i 's/controllerType=0 controllerNumber=1 
scan=[0-9]*/OR20080317_S_SILAC-LH_1-1_01/g' OR20080317_S_SILAC-LH_1-1_01.pep.xml


 sed -i 's/controllerType=0 controllerNumber=1 
scan=[0-9]*/OR20080320_S_SILAC-LH_1-1_11/g' OR20080320_S_SILAC-LH_1-1_11.pep.xml



Cheers,
-David


P.S.  I expect to merge this into the SVN codebase sooner than later.




On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Dave Trudgian 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:
David,

That's the same data. I've made PepXML and the other Morpheus output available 
at:

https://proteomics.swmed.edu/data/morpheus_tpp/

DT


On Thursday, February 6, 2014 5:36:35 PM UTC-6, David Shteynberg wrote:
I was referring to this data:

http://tools.proteomecenter.org/wiki/index.php?title=TPP_Tutorial_v2

However, this is not high res MS/MS either.  This would be a good starting 
point.  The decoys and targets don't have to separate by score alone, 
PeptideProphet should be able to model the plots you show in either case.

Cheers,
-David


On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Dave Trudgian <[email protected]> 
wrote:
Hi David,

Am happy to generate some pepXMLs from the tutorial data, but assuming you mean 
the stuff at:

ftp://ftp.peptideatlas.org/pub/PeptideAtlas/Repository/TPP_Demo2009/

... I'm not sure that's the best to work with for Morpheus. It's CID Ion-trap 
MS/MS, which is not Morpheus' target. Morpheus doesn't work as well as other 
algorithms on low-res MS/MS so I'm not sure if anyone would want to use it like 
that.

I grabbed two of the result sets from the Coon lab site - Yeast analysis with 
FT HCD or IT CID. The distributions of Morpheus scores are very different. The 
CID data doesn't even look like target and decoy matches are separable, so I 
think high-res MS/MS is a must. See attached.

DT


On Thursday, February 6, 2014 3:44:08 PM UTC-6, David Shteynberg wrote:
I was dabbling in this, but running into some issues with morpheus slowing my 
machine to a point where I was unable to do any other work so I moved to 
another project.  However, I am certainly still interested in this, but I know 
that pepXML coming out of morpheus may need some work.  If you'd be willing to 
generate some pepXML's from the tutorial data and work with me to correct the 
pepXML issues I should be able to model the results quite quickly with 
PeptideProphet.  Please let me know if that sounds good to you.

Cheers,
-David


On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Eric Deutsch <[email protected]> 
wrote:
Hi Dave, at ISB we are not planning this, so please go ahead and let us know 
how it goes!

Regards,
Eric


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Dave Trudgian

Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 12:02 PM
To: [email protected]

Subject: [spctools-discuss] Re: support for Morpheus search algorithm in TPP

Craig, just wondering if you or anyone else is working on this? If not I was 
thinking I would have a go at putting in a Morpheus model for PeptideProphet 
towards the end of next week.

Dave Trudgian

On Saturday, November 30, 2013 4:37:30 PM UTC-6, Craig Wenger wrote:
Is there a mechanism for adding support for a new search algorithm to the 
various TPP tools? A few users have requested TPP compatibility for the 
Morpheus<http://morpheus-ms.sourceforge.net/> search algorithm. It already 
outputs pepXML.

-Craig

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