Yes, they should be punished because they can cut more corners. Please refer to Lars Petrus' argument. In order for a POP to affect your average, since the slowest solve is discarded, you have to pop twice, or twice out of five solves. 40% pop rate in a competition is unacceptable.
I'll be gone for a couple of days. Tyson Mao MSC #631 California Institute of Technology On Dec 24, 2005, at 4:33 AM, Pedro wrote: > Yeah, I agree with Dan and Per. Why not allowing POPs? Some people > prefer flat centers, which gives more chance of poping...but...should > they be punished by a personal preference? and if pops are not > allowed, competitors will not push very hard on their solves, because > they will be afraid of poping and ruining an average...so, we'll have > slower times... > > well, is just what I think...but, I think POPs should be allowed... > > Pedro > > Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > Hi Tyson, > > I really object to the idea of not allowing POP's. I'm not 100% sure > of the reasoning behind this rule, but I assume it's to prevent > people from abusing it (ie when you have a bad solve you > deliberately force a piece). But let's be honest, how many of the > top20 solvers in the world have ever needed to/wanted to commit this > offence? Maybe I'm being ridiculously too trusting, but it just > doesn't seem to be a problem as far as I can see. I really really > can't see any of the top guys who can already solve in <15 secs > average being selfish enough to force the cube. And also, not > allowing a POP could completely ruin a competitors chance of winning > a title. A genuine POP is not the fault of the competitor at all, > and yet the new rule would be punishing them, since it completely > changes the approach to solving the cube. You don't want to risk > anything, especially if your cube is not quite as stable as other > competitors cubes. SO it also means that if you have a poorer cube > you are less likely to have a chance of making 5 solves! AND of > course, after you have POPped once, it's very unlikely that you > could recover it and beat someone who hasn't POPped, if you didn't > get the extra solve. I'm sorry for not putting my case very > succinctly, but hopefully you can see I feel quite passionately > about this rule change. I think the reasons for not changing the POP > rule far outweigh the reason for changing it. > > As regards the other rules, especially making all averages out of 5, > I am fully in favour of :) > > Per, Tyson, I am also in favour of allowing stickers in Fewest Moves > Competitions. Just as speedcubers are allowed to use a variety of > techniques, (some might use a corners first method, others might use > Fridrich, and ChrisH might be using ZB), even though those who > aren't using a particular technique might know nothing about it and > not be able to use it in their solves. So not allowing stickers > because it gives people an advantage over those who don't know how > to use stickers to their advantage is not a valid reason I think (if > that is indeed the reason for not allowing stickers, again i > slightly assumed I think). If competitors would supply their own > equipment, then I can't see any reason for not allowing stickers or > sticker equivalents. > > Thanks for listening, > > DanH :) - www.cubestation.co.uk > > --- In [email protected], Tyson Mao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> Hi Everyone, >> >> For all competitions in 2006, we will be making the following > changes >> in the regulations: >> >> 1. No POPs will be allowed. The competitor will not be awarded > an >> extra solve if there is a puzzle defect during the solve. >> >> 2. Record standards for 3x3x3 OH, 4x4x4, and 5x5x5 will be > Average of >> 5. The current world records set in the format of Mean of 3 will > stand >> for six months to allow time for the current world record holders > to >> retake their world records under the new format. >> >> Note: In blindfold cubing, +2 penalties are awarded. >> >> Thank you! Please let us know if there are any major objections. >> >> Tyson Mao >> World Cube Association >> > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! doce lar. Faça do Yahoo! sua homepage. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/MXMplB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
