Sure they should punished IF!!!!! they pop on purpose. but I do not think you can ever prove that. I therefore think that not allowing pops is completely wrong. Unless you can show me a VALID reason for not allowing pops then you should allow them.
You should allow one pop per ten solves. Or something like that. While we are at it. When did you ever consult the cubing community at large about this, or did the board of the WCA decide this on their own? ----- Original Message ----- From: Tyson Mao To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2006 Regulation Revisions Yes, they should be punished because they can cut more corners. Please refer to Lars Petrus' argument. In order for a POP to affect your average, since the slowest solve is discarded, you have to pop twice, or twice out of five solves. 40% pop rate in a competition is unacceptable. I'll be gone for a couple of days. Tyson Mao MSC #631 California Institute of Technology On Dec 24, 2005, at 4:33 AM, Pedro wrote: > Yeah, I agree with Dan and Per. Why not allowing POPs? Some people > prefer flat centers, which gives more chance of poping...but...should > they be punished by a personal preference? and if pops are not > allowed, competitors will not push very hard on their solves, because > they will be afraid of poping and ruining an average...so, we'll have > slower times... > > well, is just what I think...but, I think POPs should be allowed... > > Pedro > > Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > Hi Tyson, > > I really object to the idea of not allowing POP's. I'm not 100% sure > of the reasoning behind this rule, but I assume it's to prevent > people from abusing it (ie when you have a bad solve you > deliberately force a piece). But let's be honest, how many of the > top20 solvers in the world have ever needed to/wanted to commit this > offence? Maybe I'm being ridiculously too trusting, but it just > doesn't seem to be a problem as far as I can see. I really really > can't see any of the top guys who can already solve in <15 secs > average being selfish enough to force the cube. And also, not > allowing a POP could completely ruin a competitors chance of winning > a title. A genuine POP is not the fault of the competitor at all, > and yet the new rule would be punishing them, since it completely > changes the approach to solving the cube. You don't want to risk > anything, especially if your cube is not quite as stable as other > competitors cubes. SO it also means that if you have a poorer cube > you are less likely to have a chance of making 5 solves! AND of > course, after you have POPped once, it's very unlikely that you > could recover it and beat someone who hasn't POPped, if you didn't > get the extra solve. I'm sorry for not putting my case very > succinctly, but hopefully you can see I feel quite passionately > about this rule change. I think the reasons for not changing the POP > rule far outweigh the reason for changing it. > > As regards the other rules, especially making all averages out of 5, > I am fully in favour of :) > > Per, Tyson, I am also in favour of allowing stickers in Fewest Moves > Competitions. Just as speedcubers are allowed to use a variety of > techniques, (some might use a corners first method, others might use > Fridrich, and ChrisH might be using ZB), even though those who > aren't using a particular technique might know nothing about it and > not be able to use it in their solves. So not allowing stickers > because it gives people an advantage over those who don't know how > to use stickers to their advantage is not a valid reason I think (if > that is indeed the reason for not allowing stickers, again i > slightly assumed I think). If competitors would supply their own > equipment, then I can't see any reason for not allowing stickers or > sticker equivalents. > > Thanks for listening, > > DanH :) - www.cubestation.co.uk > > --- In [email protected], Tyson Mao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> Hi Everyone, >> >> For all competitions in 2006, we will be making the following > changes >> in the regulations: >> >> 1. No POPs will be allowed. The competitor will not be awarded > an >> extra solve if there is a puzzle defect during the solve. >> >> 2. Record standards for 3x3x3 OH, 4x4x4, and 5x5x5 will be > Average of >> 5. The current world records set in the format of Mean of 3 will > stand >> for six months to allow time for the current world record holders > to >> retake their world records under the new format. >> >> Note: In blindfold cubing, +2 penalties are awarded. >> >> Thank you! 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