Pushpasis -

> -----Original Message-----
> From: spring [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pushpasis Sarkar
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 7:44 AM
> To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); [email protected]; Uma
> Chunduri; Peter Psenak (ppsenak); Eric Rosen; SPRING WG
> Subject: Re: [spring] SRGBs, indexes, and topologies within a domain
> 
> Hi Les,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/26/15, 7:45 PM, "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> >Stephane -
> >
> >Implementations based on the drafts that currently exist advertise a
> topology independent SRGB. A SID which is advertised in a specific MT Prefix
> Reachability advertisement is interpreted as an index into the topology
> independent SRGB. This is NOT compatible with an implementation which is
> written assuming that a SID is an index into a topology specific SRGB. So the
> introduction of topology specific SRGBs would have to be supported
> network-wide before it could be deployed. Sub-TLVs cannot resolve this
> incompatibility.
> [Pushpasis] What if we use the current SR-capability sub-TLVs only for single
> topology deployments? And use a new MT-SR-Capability SubTLV for MT
> deployments? Please note, I am not saying MT cannot be supported with
> current SR-Cap SubTLV. It can be, but with the limitation (as I like to see 
> this
> cuurently) is that we MUST use separate SID-index for the same prefix in
> separate topologies. If operator does not want to live with the limitation
> then all the vendor implementations must implement the new MT-SR-Cap
> SubTLV and make it happen. If the operator can live with the implementation
> they continue with per-topology SID-index and single SRGB for all topology.

[Les:] What you propose does not alter the fact that unless all implementations 
agree that SIDs in MT prefix advertisements have to be applied against a 
topology specific SRGB we will have interoperability problems. So the specs 
have to be revised and the implementations have to be revised to match.
Existing code will not interoperate.

   Les

> 
> Thanks
> -Pushpasis
> 
> >
> >   Les
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: spring [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> >> [email protected]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 12:25 AM
> >> To: Pushpasis Sarkar; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); Uma Chunduri; Peter
> >> Psenak (ppsenak); Eric Rosen; SPRING WG
> >> Subject: Re: [spring] SRGBs, indexes, and topologies within a domain
> >>
> >> Hi Pushpasis,
> >>
> >> I just want to remember that the discussion is not only for MT, but
> >> there was also a thread for per algorithm SRGB (as presented in
> >> Prague). IMO, there must be some consistency in the choice we do.
> >> Regarding encoding nothing is impossible (as example a new subTLV can
> >> be created ensuring backward compatibility).
> >> I would say let's first have a consensus of what is good to do
> >> independently of the encoding.
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Pushpasis Sarkar [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 07:36
> >> To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); Uma Chunduri; LITKOWSKI Stephane
> >> SCE/IBNF; Peter Psenak (ppsenak); Eric Rosen; SPRING WG
> >> Subject: Re: [spring] SRGBs, indexes, and topologies within a domain
> >>
> >> Hi Les,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/26/15, 7:13 AM, "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >[Les:] Topology specific SRGBs requires a specification change for the
> IGPs.
> >> The new advertisements are NOT backwards compatible w existing
> >> implementations. So we cannot simply say "do what you please".
> >> >Peter has repeatedly made this point - and also pointed out that
> >> >since the
> >> prefix advertisements as currently defined in the IGP drafts includes
> >> topology identifiers including the topology identifier in the SRGB
> >> advertisement is redundant.
> >> [Pushpasis] Why not add a MT-SR_Capability Sub/TLV then? That way it
> >> won’t break backward compatibility?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> -Pushpasis
> >>
> >>
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