Stephane -

For IS-IS there is at least MT support for IPv6 and multicast.

But, I really think we are getting ahead of ourselves.

There is no consensus yet - there are simply advocates for two different 
positions.
Trying to talk about the mechanics of migration is premature. For now  it is 
sufficient for all parties to understand that existing code is not compatible w 
a per topology SRGB and changes will have to be made if that choice is made.

I would appreciate it if folks did not declare consensus until we have achieved 
it. :-)

   Les

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 9:18 AM
> To: Peter Psenak (ppsenak); Pushpasis Sarkar; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); Uma
> Chunduri; Eric Rosen; SPRING WG
> Subject: RE: [spring] SRGBs, indexes, and topologies within a domain
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Just to know, is there some implementation today supporting MT for SPRING
> ? The other point is : if yes, does someone use it in a live network ? If no,
> there is no issue to change.
> I agree that a migration is not easy, but coming back to previous sentence,
> honestly I think no one use MT SPRING today ... so no migration expected.
> 
> For algorithm, AFAIK, no one support multiple algorithm today, so we can do
> what we want as far as it does not break algo#0 today.
> 
> Stephane
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Psenak [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 17:40
> To: Pushpasis Sarkar; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); LITKOWSKI Stephane
> SCE/IBNF; Uma Chunduri; Eric Rosen; SPRING WG
> Subject: Re: [spring] SRGBs, indexes, and topologies within a domain
> 
> Hi Pushpasis,
> 
> On 8/26/15 16:44 , Pushpasis Sarkar wrote:
> > Hi Les,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/26/15, 7:45 PM, "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Stephane -
> >>
> >> Implementations based on the drafts that currently exist advertise a
> topology independent SRGB. A SID which is advertised in a specific MT Prefix
> Reachability advertisement is interpreted as an index into the topology
> independent SRGB. This is NOT compatible with an implementation which is
> written assuming that a SID is an index into a topology specific SRGB. So the
> introduction of topology specific SRGBs would have to be supported
> network-wide before it could be deployed. Sub-TLVs cannot resolve this
> incompatibility.
> > [Pushpasis] What if we use the current SR-capability sub-TLVs only for
> single topology deployments? And use a new MT-SR-Capability SubTLV for
> MT deployments? Please note, I am not saying MT cannot be supported with
> current SR-Cap SubTLV. It can be, but with the limitation (as I like to see 
> this
> cuurently) is that we MUST use separate SID-index for the same prefix in
> separate topologies. If operator does not want to live with the limitation
> then all the vendor implementations must implement the new MT-SR-Cap
> SubTLV and make it happen. If the operator can live with the implementation
> they continue with per-topology SID-index and single SRGB for all topology.
> 
> above would require vendors to implement both options. For operators
> managing transitions between one option to the other would be difficult.
> Interoperability with the implementations that only support one option
> would become problematic.
> 
> Do we really want to create all this? Does the gain we would get with per
> topo/algo SRGB justify all this, especially given that the gain is not 
> functional,
> but rather operational and fairly limited?
> 
> thanks,
> Peter
> 
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Pushpasis
> 
> 
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