Hi Les, I completely agree that consensus is not achieved yet, no worry. The only consensus we have is on per IGP instance SRGB support. But as the discussion moved to encoding issue, I just wanted to highlight that it may not be an issue. Anyway, yes, we need to find a consensus.
Best Regards, -----Original Message----- From: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 19:08 To: LITKOWSKI Stephane SCE/IBNF; Peter Psenak (ppsenak); Pushpasis Sarkar; Uma Chunduri; Eric Rosen; SPRING WG Subject: RE: [spring] SRGBs, indexes, and topologies within a domain Stephane - For IS-IS there is at least MT support for IPv6 and multicast. But, I really think we are getting ahead of ourselves. There is no consensus yet - there are simply advocates for two different positions. Trying to talk about the mechanics of migration is premature. For now it is sufficient for all parties to understand that existing code is not compatible w a per topology SRGB and changes will have to be made if that choice is made. I would appreciate it if folks did not declare consensus until we have achieved it. :-) Les > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 9:18 AM > To: Peter Psenak (ppsenak); Pushpasis Sarkar; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); > Uma Chunduri; Eric Rosen; SPRING WG > Subject: RE: [spring] SRGBs, indexes, and topologies within a domain > > Hi, > > Just to know, is there some implementation today supporting MT for > SPRING ? The other point is : if yes, does someone use it in a live > network ? If no, there is no issue to change. > I agree that a migration is not easy, but coming back to previous > sentence, honestly I think no one use MT SPRING today ... so no migration > expected. > > For algorithm, AFAIK, no one support multiple algorithm today, so we > can do what we want as far as it does not break algo#0 today. > > Stephane > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Psenak [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 17:40 > To: Pushpasis Sarkar; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); LITKOWSKI Stephane > SCE/IBNF; Uma Chunduri; Eric Rosen; SPRING WG > Subject: Re: [spring] SRGBs, indexes, and topologies within a domain > > Hi Pushpasis, > > On 8/26/15 16:44 , Pushpasis Sarkar wrote: > > Hi Les, > > > > > > > > > > On 8/26/15, 7:45 PM, "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> Stephane - > >> > >> Implementations based on the drafts that currently exist advertise > >> a > topology independent SRGB. A SID which is advertised in a specific MT > Prefix Reachability advertisement is interpreted as an index into the > topology independent SRGB. This is NOT compatible with an > implementation which is written assuming that a SID is an index into a > topology specific SRGB. So the introduction of topology specific SRGBs > would have to be supported network-wide before it could be deployed. > Sub-TLVs cannot resolve this incompatibility. > > [Pushpasis] What if we use the current SR-capability sub-TLVs only > > for > single topology deployments? And use a new MT-SR-Capability SubTLV for > MT deployments? Please note, I am not saying MT cannot be supported > with current SR-Cap SubTLV. It can be, but with the limitation (as I > like to see this > cuurently) is that we MUST use separate SID-index for the same prefix > in separate topologies. If operator does not want to live with the > limitation then all the vendor implementations must implement the new > MT-SR-Cap SubTLV and make it happen. If the operator can live with the > implementation they continue with per-topology SID-index and single SRGB for > all topology. > > above would require vendors to implement both options. For operators > managing transitions between one option to the other would be difficult. > Interoperability with the implementations that only support one option > would become problematic. > > Do we really want to create all this? Does the gain we would get with > per topo/algo SRGB justify all this, especially given that the gain is > not functional, but rather operational and fairly limited? > > thanks, > Peter > > > > > Thanks > > -Pushpasis > > > __________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________ > _____ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations > confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, > exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message > par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi > que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles > d'alteration, Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, > deforme ou falsifie. 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