Thanks Ron, I think "dont shoot the messenger" applies here. The information posted to the forum is for the benefit of the forums members. The material and the source are unedited, merely retransmitted. Some might not like what their reading, some become well informed, others hit delete. Information is power.
John Drucker -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: National Association of Home Builders is orchestrating amajoropposition campaign against residential fire sprinklers Scott, Having listened to John's philosophy over the years I do believe he was just passing on the NAHB propaganda that many of us mentioned that we didn't have access to. I really doubt he was advocating the stated position. John? On another note this seems very similar to the NAHB stand against smoke alarms back in the seventies. Any other aged members of this grouppo recall that. If you really believe any trade association's tripe that their only concern is advocating for the good of the consumer of their product then that person is surely naive (Scott this is just a general statement and not directed at you or any other particular reader of this post). On 4/25/07, å... .... <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > does it not seem that it is exactly in the lower > end housing market, and in the-sideline-housing > (where the homeless 250,000 people presumably > are waiting to get a better life in a SFD home) > where sprinklers would bring the biggest bang for > the buck? > > Has anyone REALLY calculated the savings incurred > from reduced fire (not EMT) response teams in a residentially > sprinklered community? > > Your argument makes sense in the black-and-white > of a manifesto. But it doesn´t sit quite right in my gut. > That is what this forum is for: debating the issues. > My gut vs your facts. > > scot deal > excelsior fire > > > > > > On 4/25/07, John Drucker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Facts about Sprinklers from the National Association of Home Builders > > > > The home building industry is dedicated to the safety of the communities > > in > > which they build. > > > > That's the reason why the National Association of Home Builders supports > > programs that encourage the installation and maintenance of smoke alarm > > systems in all homes. > > > > Home builders have a vested interest in the safety of their products both > > during the building process and after the house becomes someone's home. > > Whenever changes are proposed to the building codes that govern how homes > > are constructed in each community, the home builder acts as a consumer > > advocate. It's the home builder's role to make sure that these proposals > > are > > necessary and that they are cost effective before they are adopted so that > > homes stay affordable. For each $1,000 added to the price of a home, > > another > > 250,000 potential home buyers are forced to remain on the sidelines. > > > > Home builders would never diminish the important role that cost-effective > > building codes play in providing for occupant safety and health; in fact, > > new homes are safer than ever. However, as a society, we cannot afford to > > deny needed housing for the sake of new requirements without proven > > benefits. > > > > While they should remain an option for home owners who choose them, fire > > sprinklers in single-family homes are expensive to install, can be > > difficult > > to maintain and do not represent a cost-effective safety improvement over > > smoke alarm systems. For that reason, NAHB does not support measures to > > mandate their use. > > > > http://www.smokealarmswork.org/firesprinklers/index.html > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > -- Ron Greenman at home.... _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
