Some of that creative pipe design also has to do with them using ESFR heads and obstructions to pipe routings. Sometimes we had to shift a line over to clear equipment, duct's or other ceiling obstructions but needed to maintain head spacings. They didn't want a bunch of offsets in the line, I guess the armovers were more aesthetically acceptable?
Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection Group Mechanical Department CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lg.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bobby Gillett Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 2:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Hanging branch lines from panel points I believe this is the reason you can lookup in wally world and see branchlines every so often that have short armovers w/ uprights. I was curious until your question and now I'm going to look to verify. I wonder if you aren't working on the same company's stores that we are All of our hanger details are general for all trades but specific at the same time. Our S-T is in TN and I believe most GC don't enforce the whole branhline hanger due to factoring in common sense vs. type. Bobby Gillett Designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] (731)-424-0130 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Stone Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 1:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Hanging branch lines from panel points Thank you Ed and Bobby for your feedback. The problem is that the Mechanical Engineer used a generic spec and details for all trades. His response was that the contract drawings show this because the joist manufacture will void the warranty if we hang further than 6" from the panel points. We have approved plans from the Architect and Engineers showing the branch lines hung from the top cord and not the panel points of the top cord so we will ask for a change order. We also have a phone conversation report showing that the Structural Engineer had no issue with our branch line hanger detail. The lesson for us is to exclude this in our bids. Matt -----Original Message----- Actually, right now I'm designing a very similar store and in the specs and details it says the same thing in reference to all piping. We have installed many and they have never enforced the branch line piping. However I have noticed in some stores Like Wally world the branchlines are run at those locations and where the head spacing did not work out they had short armovers for those particular uprights. Bad thing is I'm having a time just getting bottom chord sizing for bar joist and girders, I can only imagine trying to get webbing layouts. I'm interested to know how it turns out. Good luck. Bobby Gillett Designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] (731)-424-0130 _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
