Eric,
A couple more questions worth asking. What is the value of the art?
Are we talking Picasso or Elvis on black velvet? Also, are there a
lot of water colors? Sprinklers don't do water colors any favors, nor
does is do any for most paintings. The water damage issue could be
significant. You might want to think about a pre-action system. Is
this a situation where they would be better off building a room and
installing a gaseous agent (FM 200) because of the water damage/value
issues? It sounds like the storage arrangement could vary every 15
minutes and be very haphazard. Are the storage units wood or metal?
That could have a huge impact on how any fire would propagate.
(Welcome to Stream-of-Consciousness Saturday)
Todd
At 08:52 AM 7/28/2007, you wrote:
Thanks, these references are right on target. However, they are
somewhat vague, presumably because as NFPA 909, A.16.4.8 says, "Compact
storage systems present a severe fire challenge that requires
engineering solutions specifically designed for each installation."
Todd, there aren't any catwalks as this installation is only 8'6" high,
being a single level of rolling shelving units. Flue spaces are small
to none, or as wide as several feet depending on where the shelves
happen to be at the time (so I'm assuming they are all rolled tightly
together). I haven't been able to actually visit them yet, but I'm
assuming for now that the shelves are solid. I believe the commodity is
Class III.
Time to earn the PE, so I'm looking for information on how others might
have approached this in the past. If nothing else, I know now that I
need a pump.
Eric J. Shelton, PE
Senior Fire Protection Engineer
Hankins and Anderson
Consulting Engineers
4880 Sadler Road Suite 300
Glen Allen, VA 23060
v: (804) 285.4171 f: (804) 217.8520
http://www.haengineers.com
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Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 5:45 PM
To: Eric Shelton
Subject: Re: High Density Art Storage
Hello Eric,
I just happened to see 21.36.1.2 but it does not mention a specific
density. Looks like NFPA 909 might give some guidance.
Friday, July 27, 2007, 4:53:07 PM, you wrote:
> I have a museum with a system of high density storage units used for
> storing small paintings and sculptures, some of which is crated. It
is
> similar to the units used for records storage, being about 8'6" high
> with 24" deep shelves, with two back-to-back shelves per unit. The
> units are manual; there are no motors. The footprint of the units is
> about 2000 square feet, and the ceiling height is about 30 feet.
>
> Does anyone have any experience with this sort of storage, and could
> suggest a density?
>
> Eric J. Shelton, PE
> Senior Fire Protection Engineer
> Hankins and Anderson
> Consulting Engineers
> 4880 Sadler Road Suite 300
> Glen Allen, VA 23060
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