In NFPA 40 there are some figures that may give some guidance.
mario berrios
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From: Eric Shelton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 8:52 am
Subject: RE: High Density Art Storage



Thanks, these references are right on target.  However, they are
somewhat vague, presumably because as NFPA 909, A.16.4.8 says, "Compact
storage systems present a severe fire challenge that requires
engineering solutions specifically designed for each installation."

Todd, there aren't any catwalks as this installation is only 8'6" high,
being a single level of rolling shelving units.  Flue spaces are small
to none, or as wide as several feet depending on where the shelves
happen to be at the time (so I'm assuming they are all rolled tightly
together).  I haven't been able to actually visit them yet, but I'm
assuming for now that the shelves are solid.  I believe the commodity is
Class III.

Time to earn the PE, so I'm looking for information on how others might
have approached this in the past.  If nothing else, I know now that I
need a pump.

Eric J. Shelton, PE
Senior Fire Protection Engineer

Hankins and Anderson
Consulting Engineers
4880 Sadler Road Suite 300
Glen Allen, VA 23060 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles
Thurston
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 5:45 PM
To: Eric Shelton
Subject: Re: High Density Art Storage

Hello Eric,

I just happened to see 21.36.1.2 but it does not mention a specific
density.  Looks like NFPA 909 might give some guidance.

Friday, July 27, 2007, 4:53:07 PM, you wrote:

> I have a museum with a system of high density storage units used for
> storing small paintings and sculptures, some of which is crated.  It
is
> similar to the units used for records storage, being about 8'6" high
> with 24" deep shelves, with two back-to-back shelves per unit.  The
> units are manual; there are no motors.  The footprint of the units is
> about 2000 square feet, and the ceiling height is about 30 feet.
>  
> Does anyone have any experience with this sort of storage, and could
> suggest a density?
>  
> Eric J. Shelton, PE
> Senior Fire Protection Engineer

> Hankins and Anderson
> Consulting Engineers
> 4880 Sadler Road Suite 300
> Glen Allen, VA 23060
>  
> v: (804) 285.4171 f: (804) 217.8520
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