Ron, Thanks for your response, I do not believe I have any liability on this
one at all, I was called in for a service call because a flow in one
"building" would set off alarms in other "buildings".  The lack of valves
was apparent when I was led to the riser, and was, I believe the reason for
the shadow alarms.  I was then given a tour of the new clusters and stated
my concerns to the owner.  I touched nothing, adjusted nothing...as far as I
know they are still having alarm problems.
When the installer was contacted I thought he would return and at the least
remove the fdc's from the individual structures and have a single fdc at the
main building  - again a condition typical in many shopping plazas and
malls.  It isn't what I got later from the owner.
I came to the forum because the installation made no sense to me.  The
responses from John and Dan set me straight as to what a building may be.
I appreciate all the help from all those that took the time to respond,
Garth
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Greenman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: what makes a "building"


> Garth,
>
> You originally asked if this arrangement was code compliant or not.
> There were some qualified yeas but  mostly a lot of "it depends." I
> doubt if anyone on the forum thinks it's a good arrangement but we all
> have different reads on whether it's a legal arrangement. That said
> I'll reiterate that the call here is by someone higher on the decision
> ladder than you. But a precarious spot  for you though since if all
> goes well it doesn't matter but if all does not go well you then
> become at least a target high on the potential liability ladder. If
> this were my job I wouldn't be questioning the forum members I'd be
> writing a letter to the architect describing the arrangement, stating
> my concerns, proposing my alternatives, and asking for a decision, yea
> or nay on the original arrangement and on the alternative, or for
> another arrangement. I'd want this reply in writing. To the AHJ I'd
> merely write saying I had concerns and whether or not he has accepted
> the current layout. I'd also want this answer in writing. I would by
> now have done my due diligence by bringing a might have been
> overlooked (from MY point of view) deficiency to the attention of the
> powers that be and allowed them to decide. I might later end up having
> to defend myself in a liability issue but I bet I'd have a couple of
> really big bullets to bring to the gunfight when I have documentation
> that I thought the arrangement to be bogus but the two biggest guns in
> town said it was OK.


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