actually I'd view this as two questions.

First, the engineer should have spec'd a specific density IF that is what's required by the hazard. AS such, going up the curve would be in complete compliance with the Spec and NFPA 13.

The second question is about going up the curve in general. The ONLY advantage for going up the curve is when you pass the magical 0.25 gpm/sf and now you get 130 sf/sprinkler and a 15 ft spacing. That can reduce your number of sprinklers by about 30% and for typically bays reduce the number of branch lines from 3 to 2 per bay. Both being cost savers. In a normal wet system you'll have bigger mains (obviously not applicable to a deluge system) to account for the significant increase in water flow. In the on-going debate within the 13 committee, there is still a lot of BS smoke and mirrors claiming other benefits (but not one has been backed up by hard cold facts like a comparison set of hydraulic calculations). From a purely contracting perspective, this ALONE is a worthy benefit.

We have taken a longer perspective regarding what is best for the industry by providing better fire protection. The bottom of the curve provides notably better fire protection on wet pipe systems especially storage. The occupancy hazard approach curves are basically being pulled along for the ride (a consistency thing). Once you've seen James Golinveaux's presentation on the validity of the storage curves you too would climb aboard the effort to eliminate the curves

Roland

On Dec 5, 2007, at 8:18 AM, Travis Mack wrote:

I have a small building that is spec'd to have a deluge system with Ex Haz Grp I for the sprinkler density. The room is just under 5000 sq ft. Since this is going to be a deluge system, I have to flow every head in the area with a design area of 5000 sq ft. I want to "go up the curve" and have the
density of 0.20 gpm / sq ft over the most demanding 5000 sq ft.

I don't see any reason why I can't do this, but just wanted to get some input as to whether it is a good idea or not? Some other things that come about with the lower density is that I can stretch the sprinklers to 130 sq ft instead of 100 sq ft and go up to 15' between sprinklers instead of 12'. This will allow saving a couple sprinklers and branch lines in this area.

So, good idea or bad?  Anything I am missing?

Thanks in advance.

Travis

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