I'd suggest that the two requirements are for the use of two different sets of folks: small hose stations for the owner/occupant and the standpipe for the FD. I'd suspect that class II alone would not be an option and that unless the local AHJ wanted the class II stations for fast attack (in a sprinklered warehouse?) then a class I would the one. Of course, as Steve says, the standpipe is for the FD and it's their requirement that needs to be met.
On Dec 5, 2007 1:47 PM, Steve Leyton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In a word, no. Methinks that you would go to the applicable building > code to determine the class of service; if the code and referenced > standards don't specify the requirement I would ask the serving building > and/or fire official. > > Steve Leyton > Protection Design & Consulting > > The foregoing is my opinion only and is not intended to represent the > Technical Committee on Standpipe Systems, nor serve as an interpretation > of NFPA 14. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David > Autry > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 11:10 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Standpipes > > I've got a large (over 12,000 sq. ft.) warehouse full of seed corn > stacked > 14' high. > > > NFPA 61 2002 Edition - Prevention of Fires and Dust Explosions in > Agricultural and Food Processing Facilities > 12.4.3 > Wet or Dry standpipes shall be installed in warehouses and packing areas > with combustible contents. > > Exception: Bulk storage warehouses or warehouses used for other than > agricultural or food product storage. > > NFPA 61 12.4.3 says I need a standpipe, 12.4.1 states if a standpipe is > installed it shall be in accordance with NFPA 14. It gives no guidance > as to > what class of standpipe. Class I, II or III. > > > > NFPA 13 2002 Edition > 12.1.3 > Small hose connections shall be provided in accordance with 8.16.5 for > first-aid fire-fighting and overhaul operations. > > > > Would the requirement in NFPA 13 satisfy NFPA 61? or vice a versa? > Looking at a distance it appears that both are required, since 13 hose > stations don't need to meet the requirements of 14 and 61 requires them > to > meet 14. > > What say the Forum? > > I know the new 13 has some wording change about small hose stations, but > I'm > working with 2002 in both cases. > > > Thanks for helping out a confused AHJ, > > > > > David Autry > Plans Examiner > Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office > 246 S. 14th Street > Lincoln, NE 68508 > 402-471-9659 > 402-471-3118 fax > www.sfm.ne.gov > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > -- Ron Greenman at home.... _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
