Also, NFSA has published the "Water Purveyor's Guide to Fire Sprinklers
in Single Family Dwellings".   This document provides direction for the
installation of meters, control valves and backflows and offers some
alternative applications to lessen the negative affect these devices
often have on life saving fire sprinkler systems.  The document is
available on the NFSA website.  
 
Steve Leyton
Protection Design & Consulting


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron
Greenman
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 12:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Residential water lines and meters for fire sprinkler
systems

Ryan,

Some jurisdictions require this for other, but just as spurious,
reasons. The costlier lines and meters comes from a couple of sources
and are accurate though typically exaggerated. Most residential
systems have 3/4" incoming lines and 5/8" meters. You'd need at least
a 3/4" meter to work a sprinkler system and more often than not 1"
lines and meters. Bigger pipe more cost but incidental in this case.
Where it really hits is the water purveyor's hook-up and other
charges. One local jurisdiction around here charges $14,000.00, yes
that's right, fourteen thousand dollars, for a one inch hook-up. Their
reason is that the increased water usage will require extra water
development costs. As long as these purveyors see sprinklers as
another water using device in addition to everything else instead of
as an alternative to high demand hydrant use, thereby typically
lessening the impact fire causes, they'll continue to charge high fees
and make the NAHB's/BIA's case.

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Ryan J. Smith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am engaged in a "friendly" and somewhat public debate with a realtor
in
> the Shenandoah Valley, Virginia area on the use residential fire
sprinklers.
> He has been educated by the home builders anti residential fire
sprinkler
> material and has been convincing others not to support the proposed
code
> changes to the IRC.
>
> The two arguments he is focusing on are:
> 1. Installing a residential fire sprinkler would require different
water
> (more expensive) lines and water meters
> 2. It is difficult (or impossible) to use a water softener in tandem
with a
> residential fire sprinkler system without having to add a second
incoming
> water line and water meter
>
> These concerns seem way overstated, especially the second since the
water
> softener could simply be installed to the domestic supply without
affecting
> the fire sprinkler water supply.
>
> Does anyone have any experience with the first concern about secondary
water
> lines and meters being needed?  My understanding is that this would
rarely
> be needed only under special circumstances, but I wanted to check
before
> posting my rebuttal.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ryan J. Smith
>
> ResidentialFireSprinklers.com - Your Voice in Home Fire Protection
> http://www.ResidentialFireSprinklers.com
>
>
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