Sounds like this is the entry to the building and is all glass (which is
probably giving the access issues). You may be able to apply for an
exception based on the argument that the vestibule is a circulation
pathway and therefore will not likely contain combustibles. Otherwise,
the architect needs to provide a means to conceal the pipe or they will
have to accept exposed pipe.
Let the design team know that there is no guarantee the sprinkler can be
omitted from the space and that they should begin planning to
accommodate the sprinkler head. Then meet with the AHJ and state the
case.
Regards,
Justin D. Reid, P.E.
Project Engineer
RLH Fire Protection
468 N. Camden Dr. #290L
Beverly Hills, CA 90210
Office: (310) 601-3013
Cell: (213) 798-0251
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Subject: Re: Entry Vestibule situation...
Why would "access" to a "small entry vestibule" be "close to
impossible?" Seems that an "entry vestibule" would be the one thing
most accessible. Question aside, if there is access then the space
space is not concealed, and even if non-combustible, requires
sprinklering. I just had an ME argue that if you put "Authorized
Personnel Only" signs on locked doors then the space behind that door
was concealed. He got an Honorable Mention for stupid but creative
try. Tis was in a jurisdiction where I'm told that the Building
Official holds the Fire Marshal in high regard because of the latter's
"creativity" in finding ways to avoid sprinklers by "clever"
interpretations of the code.
2008/7/16 RFI - Bismarck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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> Forum...
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> Have a building with a situation that I need help in addressing -
small
> entry vestibule (14'8" x 7') which has glass exterior and interior
doors and
> windows - full height; with concrete walls, floor, and ceiling
enclosing it.
> Access to this area is close to impossible... Is there anything in
NFPA that
> I'm missing which would allow me to exclude this area?
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> Thanks in advance.
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> RFP Chuck
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