I can answer the license question. In oregon, where wirsbo systems are installed, you must be a licensed plumber. The plumbers union promotes this.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Jay Jay Blocker <fire_sprinkler...@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:52:54 To: <sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org> Subject: Re: Residential systems in California Well its good to know that potter signal has information regarding how much water a toilet uses. Especially when there are high flow toilets and low flow toilets and even high volume. Its nice to know that they research life safety and life relief. LOL I am just wandering how we could leave a connection for a plumber to use to tie the sprinkler system to a toilet if he does not possess the proper license. Some jurisdictions require the company and tech to hold a license to touch any part of a fire sprinkler system, They sometimes require a plumbing license to touch a toilet. So the question is does the sprinkler tech have to gain a plumbing license or does the plumber get a fire sprinkler license? During the inspection would the tech have to inspect the interior of the toilet? What happens when a 3 year old boy figures out that moving that handle up and down repeatedly moves alot of water (possibly more than 6gpm). Does the toilet need a UL listing since its attached to a life safety system? Maybe we should paint the toilet red and put a sign on it saying "FOR EMERGENCY USE ONLY". How can we calc a toilet? Any ideas on how often they will get used? What about calcing it if the user does a double flush. Jeremy S. Blocker Let us not look back in anger, nor forward in fear, but around in awareness. --James Thurber ________________________________ From: Mike Henke <mi...@pottersignal.com> To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:25:29 PM Subject: RE: Residential systems in California There is a good possibility these types of systems will become common, maybe not the most common but there will definitely be markets. These are usually the PEX piping systems but not always. If they can eliminate the BFP that can reduce the cost. They may still use 2 separate meters, one for domestic water, the other a "fire meter" for the sprinkler system. But they would eliminate the BFP and associated maintenance costs. The toilet will not activate the flowswitch. Toilets flow 1-2 gpm. They also don't flow for long periods of time. The retard on the flowswitch can be set longer.. Flowswitches do not activate until over 6gpm. The sprinkler installer does not have to install the toilet. They can leave a connection for the plumber to connect the toilet to. Regards, mike Mike Henke CET Sprinkler Product Manager www.pottersignal.com 1-800-325-3936 -----Original Message----- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Watt Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 6:01 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Residential systems in California "To address the issue of backflow prevention, one discussion the committee is having is the viability of placing a toilet on the hydraulic end of the sprinkler system ..." Great. Now I have to learn to install toilets. Will this function as the inspectors test too? Won't the alarm sound whenever you flush? What is the definition of Task Force anyhow? Thomas _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: techsupp...@firesprinkler.org To Unsubscribe, send an email to:sprinklerforum-requ...@firesprinkler.org (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: techsupp...@firesprinkler.org To Unsubscribe, send an email to:sprinklerforum-requ...@firesprinkler.org (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: techsupp...@firesprinkler.org To Unsubscribe, send an email to:sprinklerforum-requ...@firesprinkler.org (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
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