Combustible 
Don Lowry
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-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Williams <[email protected]>

Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 07:25:15 
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Detached Porte Cochere


Combustible or non-combustible construction?


At 08:23 PM 4/30/2009, you wrote:
>As a follow up, This is the first time anyone has ever questioned us not
>having sprinklers in a small utility type structure not connected to the
>building.  It's more like a big Gazebo, just for dropping off people.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected]
>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Don Lowry
>Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 7:20 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: Detached Porte Cochere
>
>Yes, I have.  If it were attached, as is usually the case there would be no
>question, we would provide sprinklers as a continuation of the building.
>This one is 6' from the building not attached.
>
>Thanks, any other ideas?
>
>Don
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected]
>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd Williams
>Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 7:07 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: Detached Porte Cochere
>
>See NFPA 13 (2002) section 8.14.7, especially handbook commentary.
>However, local building code may trump this and you will need to
>check them.
>
>
>
>
>At 08:01 PM 4/30/2009, you wrote:
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> >
> >
> >
> >Dear Forum,
> >
> >
> >
> >Fully sprinklered ALF building, Detached Porte Cochere 500 SF, with no
> >connectors at all to the building.  Does the porte cochere have to be
> >sprinklered.
> >
> >
> >
> >IBC shows it should be a U occupancy <1000 sf so doesn't require separation
> >distances.  I looked in the archives but didn't see specifics on this
> >scenario.
> >
> >
> >
> >Issue is the Fire Marshal has approved no sprinklers, the state inspector
> >DADS states that it requires them.  Problem is getting any pipe to it.  It
> >would probably be easier to put in underground stub up to a separate riser.
> >
> >
> >
> >Inspector wants the NFPA "Code" to say it doesn't require sprinklers.  We
> >all know the NFPA "standard" doesn't say anything of this nature.
> >
> >
> >
> >I just hate telling the Builder he has to screw up his pretty building with
> >a 2" anti freeze system for 8 spks passing exposed to the PC.
> >
> >
> >
> >Any help or suggestions, or is it indeed required to be sprinklered?
> >
> >
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> >Don Lowry, R.M.E.
> >
> >Dickerson Fire Protection, Inc.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>Todd G. Williams, PE
>Fire Protection Design/Consulting
>Stonington, Connecticut
>www.fpdc.com
>860.535.2080
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Todd G. Williams, PE
Fire Protection Design/Consulting
Stonington, Connecticut
www.fpdc.com
860.535.2080  
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