Exactly. Bulb is intact. No chance of freezing. No chance of being hit. With the rust it's been going on a while. Fitter didn't look at other heads. We've not seen this much. Thought it was related to Central and o-rings only. Has anyone else had experience with non-o-ring and non-Central heads weeping and rusting? These are 25 yo Viking. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message----- From: "Thom McMahon" <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:13:02 To: <[email protected]> Subject: RE: O-rings/leaking seat Just a comment, and I haven't been following this thread that closely, but didn't you say green "Rust", which would indicate corrosion of the brass seat to me. Just a thought. Thom McMahon, SET Firetech, Inc. 2560 Copper Ridge Dr P.O. Box 882136 Steamboat Springs, CO 80488 Tel: 970-879-7952 Fax: 970-879-7926 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David de Vries Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: O-rings/leaking seat Chris: I believe Ron is right that Viking never made sprinklers with O-ring seals in the waterway. When they started making glass bulb, QR sprinklers, they went with the Belleville spring seal, which was the type of seal that replaced the O-ring seal in the Central sprinklers. The oldest of their 8 mm bulb sprinklers that I have on my desk is 1988 and it also has the BV seal. Could your sprinkler have been exposed to freezing temps? I have seen sprinklers with BV seals that were frozen, the seal displaced, and then dribbled when the thaw happened. The seal is a thin piece of Mylar (or generic equivalent, I believe) and it bulges out away from the spring. There are other mfrs that made O-ring sealed waterways. Go to UL's website and look around, or contact me off forum. To my knowledge only Central and a limited number of Gem and Star sprinklers were recalled due to O-ring problems. Dave David A. de Vries, P.E., CSP Firetech Engineering Incorporated --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Chris Cahill <[email protected]> wrote: From: Chris Cahill <[email protected]> Subject: O-rings/leaking seat To: [email protected] Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 11:20 AM We've only been following the issue a little bit. I know about the recall on Central heads so that's not the question. The question is - are there other brands that are "rusting" and leaking from the seat? I've got a Viking head from 1984 (might be a model XHH) that was leaking. It has a flat cap much like the Central o-ring heads. It has a green "rust" line around the seat. Is there other brands with o-ring, were they subject to recall? Is the leaking caused by an o-ring, maybe I'm mixing two different issues? Chris Cahill, P.E. Fire Protection Engineer Sentry Fire Protection, Inc. 763-658-4483 763-658-4921 fax Email: [email protected] Mail: P.O. Box 69 Waverly, MN 55390 Location: 4439 Hwy 12 SW Waverly, MN 55390 _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
